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Recruit's Parents and Letters-of-Intent

  • The Alex Collins story was well documented, but here's a bizarre article of a linebacker recruit signing with Tulane.

    Tulane Green Wave sign Edward Williams after mom had rejected Texas Tech Red Raiders - ESPN

    Linebacker Edward Williams signed with Tulane on Saturday after a long process that saw his mother refuse to sign her son's letter of intent to Texas Tech.

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    Josh Edwards

  • If these kids are over 18 it's really kind of ridiculous that their parents have anything to do with it.

    BlueGhost

  • I disagree BlueGhost. If a kid is living in his parents house, eating food they buy, is on their med insurance etc, they have everything to do with it. If the kid lives and supports himself away from his parents then it is a different story, but that usually isn't the case.

    Suchy500

  • Well, you can disagree with me all that you would like, but whether or not a parent supports a kid has nothing at all to do with whether or not they can legally vote, join the military, and make medical, financial and other sorts of important life decisions for themselves. At age 18 you are legally an adult. I'm surprised someone hasn't sued the NCAA for this.

    Edit- What I mean is that there's no reason that a parent should be able to sign anything in regard to what their kid does once they are 18. At that point you are legally an adult. As far as the decision making process........If your child is doing something completely different than you'd like at age 18 and your relationship isn't strong enough to be a part of it you screwed up 10-15 years ago and might as well let it go.

    This post was edited by BlueGhost on 3/5/2013 at 3:52 PM

    BlueGhost

  • A kid that has never had to fend for themselves is easily duped. I've seen it happen many many times.

    Suchy500

  • Suchy500 said...

    I disagree BlueGhost. If a kid is living in his parents house, eating food they buy, is on their med insurance etc, they have everything to do with it. If the kid lives and supports himself away from his parents then it is a different story, but that usually isn't the case.

    So you think a parent can ransom a kid just because he lives in their house, etc? The kid is the one that's EARNED the scholarship, not his parents. If a parent doesn't let a kid go where he/she wants to go to college, they're not much of a parent. Especially, if they're not paying for it. If they were going to pay for it and it was a matter affordability, I can understand it, but, that's all. You have to think about where the kid would be the most content.

    ukblueforever

  • I submit that most parents have their childs very best interests at heart. Most 18 yr olds think that they already know everything, but are most likely to at least hear what their parents have to say. I do not know why they would have to sign for an 18 yr old on their NOI. I started college at 16 and my parents helped me immensely with my decision and they had to sign my NOI. I will bet most here are very happy that Hatcher's mom and family were an integral part of his decision making process.

    Suchy500

  • Suchy: glad I didnt grow up in your house!! The bottom line, this IS NOT the parents decision. They are not the ones who have to put in all the hard work and sweat and tears over 4 years. The child should be allowed to go where he/she will be happy! Think long term and how the child will end up resenting the parent/s for forcing where they can go......

    Also, to your comments about parents putting a roof over the kids head, food on the table, etc.....That's called life. Thats called when you have children you must raise them. Thats called being a parent!!! Dont bring a child in this world if these responsibilities and duties of the parent are going to be used as bargaining chips to persuade your child to make a decision they dont want to!!

    I'll submit that you're not a very good parent if you pull something like that, or force your hand to make an 18 year old make a decision such as where to go play ball, that they did not want to make in the first place. Good grief man.....

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Chiuk on 3/5/2013 at 7:30 PM

    Chiuk

  • Just don't sign a LOI...just enroll in the fall. Parents can't stop that....

    jamccain

  • I think the truth is somewhere in between what Suchy is saying and what the rest of you are saying. The parents should definitely have a say and be there for guidance. Ultimately the kid should be able to go wherever he wants to.

    tWhit ●

  • But legally (I would assume, I'm no attorney) requiring the parent to sign shouldn't stand up.

    There's a difference between what should happen and what is legal, in some cases. I believe that the parents *should* be involved too, but it's not right in all cases. Some of these parents just don't care and are looking for their own payday (and I'm not saying that's necessarily the case in this Tech issue, possibly moreso in the Mohammed signing coffee). And I seem to remember a few instances where a kid has been basically homeless and then the parent miraculously shows up when the kid is an all star high school player and looking for a college.

    BlueGhost

  • Chiuk said...

    Suchy: glad I didnt grow up in your house!! The bottom line, this IS NOT the parents decision. They are not the ones who have to put in all the hard work and sweat and tears over 4 years. The child should be allowed to go where he/she will be happy! Think long term and how the child will end up resenting the parent/s for forcing where they can go......

    Also, to your comments about parents putting a roof over the kids head, food on the table, etc.....That's called life. Thats called when you have children you must raise them. Thats called being a parent!!! Dont bring a child in this world if these responsibilities and duties of the parent are going to be used as bargaining chips to persuade your child to make a decision they dont want to!!

    I'll submit that you're not a very good parent if you pull something like that, or force your hand to make an 18 year old make a decision such as where to go play ball, that they did not want to make in the first place. Good grief man.....

    I started to chastise you for comments about my family and parenting, but decided to let it go. Enough said.

    Edit: You can always find exceptions and crazy stories as the article here demonstrats, but I still contend that parents in general have their kids best interests at hearts whether the child decides to follow or not.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Suchy500 on 3/6/2013 at 12:00 PM

    Suchy500

  • Suchy500 said...

    I started to chastise you for comments about my family and parenting, but decided to let it go. Myself and my siblings all have children in their late twenties to early thirties. They live in Martha's Vineyard, Veil Co, Manhatten, and Indianapolis (works for Rolls Royce). My parents spearheaded building a high school stadium, a college swimming pool for their alma mater, and added a wing to a hospital in their home town. One thing that we all learned growing up, was a respect for our parents, and no free lunches. I guess it is a different world now. Enough said.

    Edit: You can always find exceptions and crazy stories as the article here demonstrats, but I still contend that parents in general have their kids best interests at hearts whether the child decides to follow or not.

    Chastise? lol. Please Nooooo! I'm not as young as you obviously think. Let's also be clear....I did not say anything directly about your family other than I'm glad I didn't grow up in your house.....I made that comment b/c of what you've said in this thread and how you've come across, to me.

    That said, I'm not sure what your siblings' places of residence (very high-end places to boot), or your parents spearheading the building a high school stadium, a college swimming pool for their alma mater, and adding a wing to a hospital in their home town, has ANYTHING to do with the topic at hand other than to point out that you and your family have evidently lived a pretty nice life. Kudos to you and family......now, to the topic at hand.

    There's a difference between advising your children, being there for them, and giving them helpful advice versus outright forcing them to make a decision to play at Tulane instead of where the kid's heart is - Texas Tech (where he'd also likely get more exposure as a football player than at Tulane).

    I also can't imagine for the life of me any reasonable parent cutting off their kid/s (food, roof over head when needed, etc) b/c of where they wanted to go play ball, which based on your previous threads, seems to be what you're suggesting......Maybe if the kid was a deadbeat, I could see cutting them off, but that's not the case here......the kid wanted to go bust his *ss for 4 years at Texas Tech, to the contrary of a parent. Pretty ruthless in my opinion.....

    This post was edited by Chiuk on 3/6/2013 at 12:07 PM

    Chiuk

  • I am done with this. I apologize that some have misinterpreted what I was saying. In the story above I do not know any of the circumstances other than what was written, so have no opinion on the matter, but it is an exception to the usual process.

    Suchy500

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