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Some athletes get $2,000 stipend but most don't

  • Interesting that the NCAA is doing this. Seems that any athlete that signed during the spring period will qualify for it but those already on campus or who signed later won't get the money...

    The NCAA initially passed the stipend at one point last year that was later suspended for more discussion, partly because of the financial strain it would threaten to put on smaller colleges and non-profit programs.

    “I can understand most schools don't have $2,000 for the swimmers, the divers, the soccer players, the equestrian girls,” Spurrier said. “It's too many people, so I can understand that. But the guys who bring it in, football and basketball players -- I think basketball players also deserve a little piece of the big pie they bring in also. I know they pay us basketball and football coaches a lot more than those other coaches, so why wouldn't the players maybe also receive a little bit more because of the tremendous amount of money that comes in?”

    Because of that brief window when the legislation did pass at one point, schools are now allowed to award stipends to athletes who signed full scholarships during that time. Few would be included, but early men’s and women’s basketball signees would qualify in most cases.

    “We have student-athletes that are going to receive that this fall,” McGarity said. “So that's already something that has been done. Obviously, those that signed in the spring are not entitled to that, but we've got all our fall signees from 2011 that will be receiving the stipend.”

    Notes from Day 2 of SEC meetings

    DESTIN, Fla. -- From a $2,000 stipend to more scheduling talk, heres a sampling of news and notes from Wednesday at the SEC Spring Meetings.

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  • Spurrier wants FB and BB players paid more than regular athletes to the tune of $3,500 - $4,000 per year.

    I think that is a bit much but don't see a problem with the 2K and having it adjusted yearly for inflation.

    South Carolina Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier wants to pay football players - ESPN

    Steve Spurrier's idea to give football players an extra stipend had little traction at last year's SEC spring meetings, but that didn't stop him from bringing it up again this go round.

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  • Maybe it should be on a needs-based basis. Some families can definitely afford to pay for their child's extra stuff while on scholarship, while some hard-working families can't. Or they can have 0% interest loans. Or the stipend can be non-mandatory where you have the option of declining it. Or the stipend can be based on academic success; if you don't make the grades, you lose the stipend or it decreases as the grades decline. Just throwing out some ideas.

    dustarm20

  • What exactly are the players missing or needing?

    I am a poor farm/country boy. Had some college scholarships for basketball and football. Courted multiple schools around Tn and Bama. Later became an Athletic Trainer at a few colleges and multiple sports. I have countless friends who are on soccer, swimming, track/field, tennis, etc teams. Here are some of my thoughts.

    -A ton of colleges offer scholarships for tuition costs. Some partial, some full.
    -Most colleges will waive the meal plan cost whether they offer tuition schollys or not
    -Many colleges will waive the room/board costs whether they offer tuition schollys or not
    -Almost all colleges that offer partial scholarships will help you find "grants" and other "scholarships" to help supplement costs.
    -Almost every school pays "per diem" while on the road. This can be a cash payment from anywhere between $20-100.......supposedly for 1 day's worth of food costs!
    -Every athlete gets a ton of clothing for free.....usually so much that they give it away or never wear most of it.
    -Many colleges offer off-season opportunities to "work" and get money
    -Etc.

    So to breakdown. The vast majority of athletes get help with the necessities.....food, shelter, etc. It is a very small population that doesn't get everything covered....and many of this small population have options to go to other schools out of HS that are cheaper or provide more financial support.

    If the costs still aren't covered then there is always financial aid....which most non-athletes have to get anyway. Don't let anyone fool you. Athletes get paid.

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  • dustarm20 said...

    Maybe it should be on a needs-based basis. Some families can definitely afford to pay for their child's extra stuff while on scholarship, while some hard-working families can't. Or they can have 0% interest loans. Or the stipend can be non-mandatory where you have the option of declining it. Or the stipend can be based on academic success; if you don't make the grades, you lose the stipend or it decreases as the grades decline. Just throwing out some ideas.

    Giving a stipend on a "need basis" is a terrible idea. We have way too many entitlement programs in this country as it is. Athletic and academic scholarships are earned. They are not entitlements given based on your families financial success or lack thereof.

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  • Spurrier's idea as I know it is to give to each based on contribution, not need (hence football and basketball). I have no problem with that.

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  • Spurrier wants to pay some of the FB players but not all of them... I don't see that going over--ever.

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  • usa1000 said...

    Giving a stipend on a "need basis" is a terrible idea. We have way too many entitlement programs in this country as it is. Athletic and academic scholarships are earned. They are not entitlements given based on your families financial success or lack thereof.

    I was just throwing out ideas. I agree on their being way too many entitlement programs in the U.S.; figured I would show both sides of the political spectrum (should have known better!!!!).

    dustarm20

  • I just don't like the idea of amateur athletes being paid. It's going to lead to nothing but trouble. A kid who is supposed to get their money won't, and someone who is supposed to get their allowed amount will get 5-10 times that much. The NCAA is asking for headaches.

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  • BlueRaider22 said...

    What exactly are the players missing or needing?

    I am a poor farm/country boy. Had some college scholarships for basketball and football. Courted multiple schools around Tn and Bama. Later became an Athletic Trainer at a few colleges and multiple sports. I have countless friends who are on soccer, swimming, track/field, tennis, etc teams. Here are some of my thoughts.

    -A ton of colleges offer scholarships for tuition costs. Some partial, some full. -Most colleges will waive the meal plan cost whether they offer tuition schollys or not -Many colleges will waive the room/board costs whether they offer tuition schollys or not -Almost all colleges that offer partial scholarships will help you find "grants" and other "scholarships" to help supplement costs. -Almost every school pays "per diem" while on the road. This can be a cash payment from anywhere between $20-100.......supposedly for 1 day's worth of food costs! -Every athlete gets a ton of clothing for free.....usually so much that they give it away or never wear most of it. -Many colleges offer off-season opportunities to "work" and get money -Etc.

    So to breakdown. The vast majority of athletes get help with the necessities.....food, shelter, etc. It is a very small population that doesn't get everything covered....and many of this small population have options to go to other schools out of HS that are cheaper or provide more financial support.

    If the costs still aren't covered then there is always financial aid....which most non-athletes have to get anyway. Don't let anyone fool you. Athletes get paid.

    This is exactly my problem with this. Aside from maybe not having a car (whaa!), these kids literally have everything handed to them due to their ability to play sports. They have free housing, free food, free clothes, etc, etc, etc. You see practically every one of them with Beats headphones and diamond ear rings on during warmups, bus rides, etc. I don't understand the need to pay them. I realize that without them, there'd be no college sports, but it's not like they can play in the NFL without going to college, or at least waiting 3 years out of HS. And, if by some miracle you're good enough to play in the NBA straight out of HS, then congratulations because you're the exception to the rule and college basketball would survive without you. Being able to play collegiate sports is a privilege, not a god given right.

    "Apparently the University of Kentucky basketball dynasty is to continue forever." - Philadelphia Inquirer, December 23 1954.

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  • dustarm20 said...

    Maybe it should be on a needs-based basis. Some families can definitely afford to pay for their child's extra stuff while on scholarship, while some hard-working families can't. Or they can have 0% interest loans. Or the stipend can be non-mandatory where you have the option of declining it. Or the stipend can be based on academic success; if you don't make the grades, you lose the stipend or it decreases as the grades decline. Just throwing out some ideas.

    How can that be equal? If both kids qualify, give them both the benefit. The reason why the turmoil is in social services is because the difference in determining who gets what is so close that it causes hard feelings when the one get left out. The schools gets it, spread the wealth out to those who help make it for the school.

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