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rompcat said...
Something that should be noted regarding Spurrier going to South Carolina is that there is a wealth of homegrown talent in that state that Kentucky lacks. Taking an opportunity to build a winner is more attractive when a significant piece to the puzzle is already in place or easily obtained.
This post was edited by Deeeefense on 10/4/2011 at 1:50 PM
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Deeeefense said...
I don't buy that argument. South Carolina has 21 commit's so far in this years class and a grand total of 4 of them are from in the state of South Carolina.
The geographical advantage was once a much bigger and more important factor than it is now but with high speed internet, You Tube, mass transportation, and the availability of inexpensive video production equipment, plus that fact that the pool of talent is much larger now that it has been before, it is not that big of a deal.
This post was edited by Tskware on 10/4/2011 at 2:40 PM
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Deeeefense said...
I don't buy that argument. South Carolina has 21 commit's so far in this years class and a grand total of 4 of them are from in the state of South Carolina.
The geographical advantage was once a much bigger and more important factor than it is now but with high speed internet, You Tube, mass transportation, and the availability of inexpensive video production equipment, plush that fact that there poole of talent is much larger now that it has been before, it is not that big of a deal.
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mtk4uk said...
While I dont think now is the time to be talking of making a coaching change, there is something that keeps being said is just mind numbing to me. I heard it again last night on Sports Nightly with Dick Gabriel. Someone mentioned that if Joker was fired then the university should spend the big bucks on a big name coach. Dick's reply was that UK could not afford it and that a big name coach would not come here. He is not the first to say this, but I totally disagree. Why cant UK pay an established coach the same as Coach Cal? There is no reason they cant or shouldnt. UK football should be given the same opportunity as basketball. You offer enough money and you will get the coach. Look at USC and Spurrier. He didnt go there because it was a proven winner. This mind set has got to change. I still want to see Joker succeed but if a change is needed then the athletic dept needs to have the same goal in mind as they did when they went after Cal.
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BlueGhost said...
Brooks has seen it. Everyone sees it. Unless UK is willing to pony up money it's not going to happen. UK makes good money from football. They should see it as an investment to pay for a good quality coach.
I'm not ready to switch out Joker yet. I don't think he's had the opportunity to show what he can do. However, I was not really for his hiring in the first place. Well, at least not as the head-coach-in-waiting. We should have done a search. I think there are more well qualified people out there we could have considered.
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mtk4uk said...
That is really my whole gripe here. It seems that UK and everyone involved is more than willing to put out the cash for basketball but not for the football program. I want Joker to succeed, I really do, but I just grow tired of the whole argument of to little money when it comes to football.
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iamtrueblue said...
One thing that rarely gets talked about anymore is the increased funding from the fans. My season ticket prices have tripled since Barnhart took over and the arguement has always been that if we want to compete in the SEC then we, as fans, have to increase our financial support. We have done that but we really haven't seen much sustained improvement in the overall football team. Yes we have gone to 5 straight bowls and given our history I think that is a notable accomplishment but with so many bowls and a 12 game schedule it is not that difficult to go to a lower teir bowl.
What we as fans should expect is a team that is consistently competitive in the SEC. We rarely are. I think Brooks laid a solid foundation and now it is time to take another step up the SEC pecking order. So far in year 2 of the Joker regime we have taken a step back.
I am as diehard UK fan as anyone but shelling out $3k a year for season tix to see an uncompetitve team is becoming hard to justify. Let's face it, college sports are supposed to be entertainment and fun. Did anyone have much fun watching the teams's performance at the Florida game?
If the administration doesn't do something to improve the football program they are going to start losing a segment of the fanbase and that means they are going to lose financial support from those fans.
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iamtrueblue said...
One thing that rarely gets talked about anymore is the increased funding from the fans. My season ticket prices have tripled since Barnhart took over and the arguement has always been that if we want to compete in the SEC then we, as fans, have to increase our financial support. We have done that but we really haven't seen much sustained improvement in the overall football team. Yes we have gone to 5 straight bowls and given our history I think that is a notable accomplishment but with so many bowls and a 12 game schedule it is not that difficult to go to a lower teir bowl.
What we as fans should expect is a team that is consistently competitive in the SEC. We rarely are. I think Brooks laid a solid foundation and now it is time to take another step up the SEC pecking order. So far in year 2 of the Joker regime we have taken a step back.
I am as diehard UK fan as anyone but shelling out $3k a year for season tix to see an uncompetitve team is becoming hard to justify. Let's face it, college sports are supposed to be entertainment and fun. Did anyone have much fun watching the teams's performance at the Florida game?
If the administration doesn't do something to improve the football program they are going to start losing a segment of the fanbase and that means they are going to lose financial support from those fans.
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Deeeefense said...
I agree with most of the comments above on facilities and coaching, but I think Brooks does not escape innocent here and maybe should be shouldering more of the blame right now. So while I think the jury is still out on Joker, he wasn't dealt quite the strong hand that everyone seems to think he was.
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iamtrueblue said...
"Yes we brought in some good recruiters, but somewhere along the line it seems we forgot we must have coaches who are able to coach kids up. "
You said a mouthful right there. I'm beginning to wonder if our ace recruiter hires came at the expense of seasoned game coaches. Take T. Martin for example. It is undeniable that he is one of the best up-and-coming recruiters in the game and gets glowing reviews. However he is coaching the WRs and I can honestly say it is the worst group of D1 receivers I've ever seen assembled. Ever! There is talent there but they are underachieving big time. So is it smart to put a young, former QB with no former WR coaching experience in charge of a group of inexperienced WRs? Isn't our head coach a former WR who has played and coached the position for decades? Why isn't his impact being felt there? If the team's most glaring weakness happens to be one of the head coach's primary areas of expertise, what does that say about his influence and ability to lead?
Just more food for thought. I think we all want UK to get over the hump but we need to see signs of improvement, not backsliding. I cannot find any valid excuses to ever be in the bottom 10 nationally in so many offensive categories. Poor playcalling, poor schemes, poor coaching up, poor execution, poor recruiting. It is simply inexcusable given that our coaches make very respectable salaries.







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