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Stern still hopes for change to draft age rule

  • If Davis is the top pick, he would be the fifth freshman in six years to go No. 1, following Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, John Wall and Kyrie Irving. Stern said the league's draft requirement is often misreported as forcing players to spend a year in college.

    "That's not our rule," he said. "Our rule is that they won't be eligible for the draft until they're 19. They can play in Europe, they can play in the D-League, they can go to college. This is a not a social program, this is a business rule for us. The NFL has a rule which requires three years of college. So the focus is often on ours, but it's really not what we require in college. It's that we say we would like a year to look at them and I think it's been interesting to see how the players do against first-class competition in the NCAAs and then teams have the ability to judge and make judgments, because high-ranking draft picks are very, very valuable."

    Stern still hopes for change to draft age rule - BusinessWeek

    David Stern would love a system in which Anthony Davis and the rest of Kentucky's freshmen stars were required to try to repeat.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    If Davis is the top pick, he would be the fifth freshman in six years to go No. 1, following Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, John Wall and Kyrie Irving. Stern said the league's draft requirement is often misreported as forcing players to spend a year in college.

    "That's not our rule," he said. "Our rule is that they won't be eligible for the draft until they're 19. They can play in Europe, they can play in the D-League, they can go to college. This is a not a social program, this is a business rule for us. The NFL has a rule which requires three years of college. So the focus is often on ours, but it's really not what we require in college. It's that we say we would like a year to look at them and I think it's been interesting to see how the players do against first-class competition in the NCAAs and then teams have the ability to judge and make judgments, because high-ranking draft picks are very, very valuable."

    Funny that he says his rule doesn't require players to spend a year in college, and then he says it is interesting to see how players do against first class competition in the NCAA's. . . Yes it doesn't "require" that, but come on, are you serious???

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  • Yeah, that rang a bit hollow with me, too. I'm not totally convinced Stern wants the rule change. I think it may make him sound good to say that publicly, but if you read some of his quotes here, it doesn't exactly support that.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Yeah, that rang a bit hollow with me, too. I'm not totally convinced Stern wants the rule change. I think it may make him sound good to say that publicly, but if you read some of his quotes here, it doesn't exactly support that.

    He sure didn't fight very hard for a rule change in the negotiations. I wish it was like football. 3 years minimum. That would be great.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Yeah, that rang a bit hollow with me, too. I'm not totally convinced Stern wants the rule change. I think it may make him sound good to say that publicly, but if you read some of his quotes here, it doesn't exactly support that.

    I don't think it is going to change anytime soon. One and done is working perfect for the players association and the owners.

    It allows the Owners a chance to see the players against good competition for a year w/o taking the risk on an 18 year old. It allows the players the chance to build their own brand before they even set foot in the league. Pretty much a perfect scenario for the parties involved (except the actual players).

    Zero chance a two year rule or a baseball-type rule ever gets put in place. Nothing really to gain from a business perspective from the league.

    MCF

  • CarlLexington said...

    He sure didn't fight very hard for a rule change in the negotiations. I wish it was like football. 3 years minimum. That would be great.

    3 year rule would be a disaster....all the top players would skip college altogether...

    We would be stuck watching the equilvilant of high quality division 2 basketball.

    jamccain

  • Does anyone think if they made it two and done that a lot more players would take a chance on going to Europe? I know Jeremy Tyler messed up but Brandon Jennings did pretty well for himself so it has to at least be possible, right?

    Also the D-League seems to be getting players into the league quickly these days, a lot of call ups and a few good players coming up, are we going to see high schoolers going to the D League? Would that route lead to your second contract earlier?

    QueenLizzysWild

  • I don't see why guys that want to & can make a living at 18 can not be permitted to do so. What the situation is now is current players screwing over young ones for jobs.

    vhcat1970

  • CarlLexington said...

    He sure didn't fight very hard for a rule change in the negotiations. I wish it was like football. 3 years minimum. That would be great.

    Same. But 2 would be a good compromise. That way the people who say kids just show up in August and quit worrying about school in April will be pacified (even thought that's not really been the case at UK, with the exception of Orton).

    Two years gives fans a chance to bond with players longer, gives players a chance to develop their skills further (see Jones, Lamb) and gives the pros an additional year to scout them and make better choices. It seems like a no-brainer (which is probably why it hasn't happened). shrug

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  • jamccain said...

    3 year rule would be a disaster....all the top players would skip college altogether...

    We would be stuck watching the equilvilant of high quality division 2 basketball.

    I completely disagree. Most aren't going to pack up and move to an entire other country. I'd say you'd get about as many doing that as are doing it now. You don't see high school football phenoms going to the Canadian League.

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  • QueenLizzysWildcat said...

    Does anyone think if they made it two and done that a lot more players would take a chance on going to Europe? I know Jeremy Tyler messed up but Brandon Jennings did pretty well for himself so it has to at least be possible, right?

    Also the D-League seems to be getting players into the league quickly these days, a lot of call ups and a few good players coming up, are we going to see high schoolers going to the D League? Would that route lead to your second contract earlier?

    Brandon Jennings hated his time overseas though. Hopefully that story inspired some kids to do their work in high school so they could go play in college for a year.

    tWhit

  • CarlLexington said...

    I completely disagree. Most aren't going to pack up and move to an entire other country. I'd say you'd get about as many doing that as are doing it now. You don't see high school football phenoms going to the Canadian League.

    Three year rule would be an absolute disaster. Agents would have a hold on these kids. You think it used to be bad with agents paying players it would be even worse now. Kids would not be willing to be patient and wait on the money. So many kids have bad family situations and these shady characters would be able to prey on these kids promising them to help out with their family.

    tWhit

  • tWhit said...

    Three year rule would be an absolute disaster. Agents would have a hold on these kids. You think it used to be bad with agents paying players it would be even worse now. Kids would not be willing to be patient and wait on the money. So many kids have bad family situations and these shady characters would be able to prey on these kids promising them to help out with their family.

    Interesting point to consider. Maybe it would lead to more corruption. I don't know if you can make decisions based on fear of the worst-case scenario, though. There would be more positives than negatives.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Interesting point to consider. Maybe it would lead to more corruption. I don't know if you can make decisions based on fear of the worst-case scenario, though. There would be more positives than negatives.

    Its not based on fear. Its based on reality. Its not gonna happen anyway. Its a perfect situation for the NBA the way the rule stands.

    This post was edited by tWhit on 4/6/2012 at 4:30 AM

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  • Listened to Mike and Mike yesterday and neither of them think the NBA really wants to change the rule and they used Davis as an example. In one year he was able to showcase his talent, prove he was worthy of the #1 pick and also has developed his name and reputation which increases fan hype. All this was accomplished in one season and looking at it, it's a win for the NBA. Why would they want to change this model??

    Again, the above was the crux of their discussion and I could argue for and against this point of view w/equal resolve. In the end, I still firmly believe that both the NBA and NCAA are better served by having a more mature and better vetted player entering in the draft than a bunch of one and done's. The end product for both entities are teams that have better players and a game that is better played. After the 1st pick (most of who could have made the jump directly) the path to the NBA is littered w/kids who thought they had what it took or received bad advice and flopped in the league after coming out early.

    ukaveman

  • http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7751190/mark-emmert-david-stern-exchange-one-done-salvos

    from here looks like he could caree less about the rule, unless he has changed his mind recently

    loganh