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Steve Kerr's insightful column on NBA and early entrants

  • Thought provoking stuff from a guy who has first-hand experience with the aftermath of college kids leaving early for the NBA...

    Steve Kerr on the problems with the age limit in the NBA - Grantland

    It's not just personal experience it's common sense.

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  • Chris Fisher

  • Thought it was a great piece...really think if players had to stay at least 2 years in college would really benefit them in more ways than one. I just wonder if the players association will ever make moves toward changing the age limit

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  • Outstanding article.
    Go Cats!
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    KickAssCats

  • Great article, but it won't happen. Agents are greedy.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • The thing that I like about Kerr's article is it attacks the situation from the standpoint of the NBA. That is where this needs to be discussed because its their rule not CBB and many fans (not UK fans) don't understand this. CBB coaches, fans, talking heads can complain until they're blue in the face about this, but it will never matter unless the NBA and NBPA realize it is to their benefit to up the age limit.

    Kerr did a great job of articulating why the change would benefit the NBA. He didn't comment much on how the trickle down effect would benefit the college game. This is a win-win for everyone involved save agents.

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    Nate87

  • Nate87 said...

    The thing that I like about Kerr's article is it attacks the situation from the standpoint of the NBA. That is where this needs to be discussed because its their rule not CBB and many fans (not UK fans) don't understand this. CBB coaches, fans, talking heads can complain until they're blue in the face about this, but it will never matter unless the NBA and NBPA realize it is to their benefit to up the age limit.

    Kerr did a great job of articulating why the change would benefit the NBA. He didn't comment much on how the trickle down effect would benefit the college game. This is a win-win for everyone involved save agents.

    It did attack it from the NBA point of view. However, it shouldn't be College Basketball's responsibility to teach many of these "kids" life skills. It should be their parents. College isn't for everyone and if wasn't for this rule many wouldn't play college basketball, they would bypass it for the NBA or go overseas playing professionally. Which is what they should be doing. Many of the players have no interest in getting an education, nor attending classes, nor being a member of the campus community. Because the NBA has a "stupid" rule and Steve Kerr thinks it should be raised by a year ignores the fact that many times college coaches, administrators, and professors are nothing but babysitters for players that have no interest in being supervised and or taught to be a professional in life.

    I'm not saying it's wrong, but college campuses shouldn't be used for this and raising the age limit by a year isn't gonna all of a sudden teach these guys "how to be a professional or a man for that matter". NBA needs to fund a legitimate minor league and guys like Steve Kerr need to understand that college is an institution for an education and to grow as a human. Not a babysitter or backstop for players that have no interest in an education nor growing as a person.

    I applaud Cal and the way he has approached this and executed it. But for every DeAndre Liggins turnaround story there are 50 that turn out bad. I'm afraid to know the road Liggins would have went down if Clyde would've stayed. I have admiration for Cal for truly caring about the players and their personal growth in such a short time. I also have admiration for guys like Izzo that do it a different way but are still highly successful. But this is not what college baskeball should be about nor should legitimate coaches and athletic directors be put in a position to deal with it.

    dailyminefield

  • dailyminefield said...

    It did attack it from the NBA point of view. However, it shouldn't be College Basketball's responsibility to teach many of these "kids" life skills. It should be their parents. College isn't for everyone and if wasn't for this rule many wouldn't play college basketball, they would bypass it for the NBA or go overseas playing professionally. Which is what they should be doing. Many of the players have no interest in getting an education, nor attending classes, nor being a member of the campus community. Because the NBA has a "stupid" rule and Steve Kerr thinks it should be raised by a year ignores the fact that many times college coaches, administrators, and professors are nothing but babysitters for players that have no interest in being supervised and or taught to be a professional in life.

    I'm not saying it's wrong, but college campuses shouldn't be used for this and raising the age limit by a year isn't gonna all of a sudden teach these guys "how to be a professional or a man for that matter". NBA needs to fund a legitimate minor league and guys like Steve Kerr need to understand that college is an institution for an education and to grow as a human. Not a babysitter or backstop for players that have no interest in an education nor growing as a person.

    I applaud Cal and the way he has approached this and executed it. But for every DeAndre Liggins turnaround story there are 50 that turn out bad. I'm afraid to know the road Liggins would have went down if Clyde would've stayed. I have admiration for Cal for truly caring about the players and their personal growth in such a short time. I also have admiration for guys like Izzo that do it a different way but are still highly successful. But this is not what college baskeball should be about nor should legitimate coaches and athletic directors be put in a position to deal with it.

    Um, okay. Don't you think the more experiences that these guys would have on a college campus would help prepare them better in life? Isn't that the reason why the majority of people who choose to attend college do so? Don't you think guys like DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Teague, maybe MKG, etc. would benefit from another year growing as people and learning the game from Cal? Can we all agree that we saw a much more mature Jones through the second half of his sophomore season compared to the entire first year and a half he spent on campus?

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    Nate87

  • Nate87 said...

    Um, okay. Don't you think the more experiences that these guys would have on a college campus would help prepare them better in life? Isn't that the reason why the majority of people who choose to attend college do so? Don't you think guys like DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Teague, maybe MKG, etc. would benefit from another year growing as people and learning the game from Cal? Can we all agree that we saw a much more mature Jones through the second half of his sophomore season compared to the entire first year and a half he spent on campus?

    Agree completely Nate,

    but how many Calipari's are there in college basketball. Look at the SEC, Arkansas problems with Pelphrey, Darrin Horn canned after 3 years, Renardo Sydney, Trent Johnson gone.

    Cal truly is a special coach doing it the right way with the rules set up. Guys that have no interest in going to college should be able to play in a legit minor league making a fair salary (20-40K) to play professionally if their good enough or head to Europe. The ones that do have an interest in education shouldn't have scholarships taken up by the Renardo Sydneys of the world.

    dailyminefield

  • This made me lol

    True story: I once had an extremely young teammate ask me when our Christmas break was. He then became visibly shocked and saddened after learning that we didn't get to go home for a week or so. Another time, a different young player asked me how the NBA's playoff format worked. We entered the first round of the postseason and he had no idea what "best of 5" meant. These were players who were ready to be professional athletes?

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  • On a related note, did you guys see where John Wall shot 7 percent -- 7!!! -- from 3-point range this season. He was 3-for-42.

    Obviously, a big-time talent, but think about how he could have developed his J a little more if he was coming up 20 years ago.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    This made me lol

    True story: I once had an extremely young teammate ask me when our Christmas break was. He then became visibly shocked and saddened after learning that we didn't get to go home for a week or so. Another time, a different young player asked me how the NBA's playoff format worked. We entered the first round of the postseason and he had no idea what "best of 5" meant. These were players who were ready to be professional athletes?

    Boggles the mind.

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    Chris Fisher