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Tee Martin to Southern Cal?

  • USC recruited 2 3 star players.

    The rest were 4 and 5 star players.

    End of story.

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    mrhotdice

  • mtk4uk said...

    Obviously some of you are ready to jump off a cliff over this. Yes it does hurt a little but not a major catastrophe that some of you are making it out to be. And those of you saying that this means that Tee has no faith in Joker, you are way off. You obviously never listened to Tee's comments on Joker. Tee did this for his wife and family, plan and simple. Joker will get someone to fill the recruiting role and someone who can coach receivers. I think everyone can agree that a receiver coach was not Tee's strong suit. To say we will no longer get players is just laughable. Seems to me we have had some very nice players come through UK in the last few years prior to Tee Martin. I wish Tee and his family nothing but the best and I look forward to seeing who Joker brings in to fill the job.

    This.

    vhcat1970

  • Tee could be on a staff coaching for the national championship in a couple of years. Still, it sucks for us so as everyone has said, we need a home run with this next hire. Not just an up and comer but someone with a name that recruits will know.

    Damn, what a freakin' story to wake up to.

    rob65

  • mrhotdice said...

    USC recruited 2 3 star players.

    The rest were 4 and 5 star players.

    End of story.

    Pretty much

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  • To the people who are being critical of Tee as a WR coach due to the performance of UK's WRs last year.....you're crazy. You do realize he had absolutely nothing to work with as far as SEC talent goes. He had lightly recruited 2 and 3 star players, many of which didn't even play WR in high school. You're gonna knock him over the performances of guys like Brian Adams, Gene McCaskil (with a rebuilt knee), EJ Fields, Matt Roark, ect..... Most Sun Belt programs have a more dynamic WR corp than what UK put on the field last season.

    All of the talent at WR is in the upcoming sophmore and freshmen classes....you know....the classes that HE was responsible for. He brought in Darryl Collins, Rashad Cunningham, Bookie Cobbins, Demarco Robinson and Jalen Whitlow.

    MinterWonderlnd

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    5368ppi

  • rob65 said...

    Tee could be on a staff coaching for the national championship in a couple of years. Still, it sucks for us so as everyone has said, we need a home run with this next hire. Not just an up and comer but someone with a name that recruits will know.

    Damn, what a freakin' story to wake up to.

    How about next season?

    USC is loaded. They have the top quarterback in the country and athletes all around him. They have Monte Kiffin coordinating their defense. What is not to like?

    Tee is moving on up to Hollywood. It is a great career move and the Big Blue Nation ought to be happy for him. He gave us his all while he was here.

    5368ppi

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    To the people who are being critical of Tee as a WR coach due to the performance of UK's WRs last year.....you're crazy. You do realize he had absolutely nothing to work with as far as SEC talent goes. He had lightly recruited 2 and 3 star players, many of which didn't even play WR in high school. You're gonna knock him over the performances of guys like Brian Adams, Gene McCaskil (with a rebuilt knee), EJ Fields, Matt Roark, ect..... Most Sun Belt programs have a more dynamic WR corp than what UK put on the field last season.

    All of the talent at WR is in the upcoming sophmore and freshmen classes....you know....the classes that HE was responsible for. He brought in Darryl Collins, Rashad Cunningham, Bookie Cobbins, Demarco Robinson and Jalen Whitlow.

    To be fair though Fields had offers from UL, UC, Duke, NcSt., Wake, Wisconsin and Purdue. Adams had a offer from Vandy, McCaskill had a offer to Penn St. and Roark had offers to Duke, Ga.Tech, Illinois, Oregon and Wake.

    If Cobb doesn't jump to the NFL and our QB play is better we're not having this debate. Those kids had/have the talent to be good wr's but things just didn't work out. The previous coaching staff took a chance with athletes and it didn't work.

    Tee is a good recruiter, but he wasn't the only one that's bringing in talent. Collins & Taylor where great gets and I doubt anyone would disagree but that's what Tee was being paid to do.

    Poncho Thomas, Swindle, Legree - Mike Summers
    Fred Tiller, Mobley - Pardue
    Sweat - Sanders & Tee
    Chapman, Blaylock Twins - Nord
    Foster - Nord, Pardue
    Towles - Smith
    Quinn - Cassity

    We have a solid group of recruiters and I have faith in the fact Joker will make another solid hire.

    Whitaker568

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    To the people who are being critical of Tee as a WR coach due to the performance of UK's WRs last year.....you're crazy. You do realize he had absolutely nothing to work with as far as SEC talent goes. He had lightly recruited 2 and 3 star players, many of which didn't even play WR in high school. You're gonna knock him over the performances of guys like Brian Adams, Gene McCaskil (with a rebuilt knee), EJ Fields, Matt Roark, ect..... Most Sun Belt programs have a more dynamic WR corp than what UK put on the field last season.

    All of the talent at WR is in the upcoming sophmore and freshmen classes....you know....the classes that HE was responsible for. He brought in Darryl Collins, Rashad Cunningham, Bookie Cobbins, Demarco Robinson and Jalen Whitlow.

    My expectation is they "CATCH THE BALL". Fair to say what WR Talent we had wasn't maximized. I wish Tee the best and think he is an asset to any program. I'm just disturbed about his process to leave and can't say I saw improvement in our WR's under his tutelage. I saw improvement in the "RECRUITED TALENT", but I didn't see our receivers make better catches, run better routes, etc. But granted our whole offense was a MESS last year. All of the coaches are responsible.

    dailyminefield

  • 5368ppi said...

    How about next season?

    USC is loaded. They have the top quarterback in the country and athletes all around him. They have Monte Kiffin coordinating their defense. What is not to like?

    Tee is moving on up to Hollywood. It is a great career move and the Big Blue Nation ought to be happy for him. He gave us his all while he was here.

    USC will be a good team next season but they lose a lot from their front seven.

    Whitaker568

  • Whitaker568 said...

    USC will be a good team next season but they lose a lot from their front seven.

    The loss of Khalil (SP) will be a much bigger impact than what people realize.

    I still don't believe they can play with a top SEC team. And that D will have to prove it can stop Oregon before we begin the SEC talks.

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  • 5368ppi said...

    How about next season?

    USC is loaded. They have the top quarterback in the country and athletes all around him. They have Monte Kiffin coordinating their defense. What is not to like?

    Tee is moving on up to Hollywood. It is a great career move and the Big Blue Nation ought to be happy for him. He gave us his all while he was here.

    He came in what a month before signing day? The majority of which time he was preparing for our bowl game and not focused on recruiting. Hard to blame him for not having any impact last year.

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  • cobbycobb said...

    He came in what a month before signing day? The majority of which time he was preparing for our bowl game and not focused on recruiting. Hard to blame him for not having any impact last year.

    I think you were referring to another post of mine.

    As far as Rick Minter goes, he did join the staff in late November, 2010 and National Signing Day was a little over two months away.

    My problem is that so many on this board were so very critical of Steve Brown, saying (among other things) that he couldn't recruit. Rick Minter was the head coach at the University of Cincinnati for TEN years and yet, he has not landed even one player from that rich hotbed to come to UK last year or this year.

    Very disappointing! Southwestern Ohio is a natural, fertile recruiting turf for Kentucky and needs to be developed by someone. It doesn't look like Minter is up to the task.

    5368ppi

  • 5368ppi said...

    I think you were referring to another post of mine.

    As far as Rick Minter goes, he did join the staff in late November, 2010 and National Signing Day was a little over two months away.

    My problem is that so many on this board were so very critical of Steve Brown, saying (among other things) that he couldn't recruit. Rick Minter was the head coach at the University of Cincinnati for TEN years and yet, he has not landed even one player from that rich hotbed to come to UK last year or this year.

    Very disappointing! Southwestern Ohio is a natural, fertile recruiting turf for Kentucky and needs to be developed by someone. It doesn't look like Minter is up to the task.

    I like Minter and his scheme on defense, but I don't think he is up to the task of recruiting ANYWHERE. He is never mentioned in connection with any recruits. I know that isn't too terribly uncommon for a coordinator.

    mjdotson

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    To the people who are being critical of Tee as a WR coach due to the performance of UK's WRs last year.....you're crazy. You do realize he had absolutely nothing to work with as far as SEC talent goes. He had lightly recruited 2 and 3 star players, many of which didn't even play WR in high school. You're gonna knock him over the performances of guys like Brian Adams, Gene McCaskil (with a rebuilt knee), EJ Fields, Matt Roark, ect..... Most Sun Belt programs have a more dynamic WR corp than what UK put on the field last season.

    All of the talent at WR is in the upcoming sophmore and freshmen classes....you know....the classes that HE was responsible for. He brought in Darryl Collins, Rashad Cunningham, Bookie Cobbins, Demarco Robinson and Jalen Whitlow.

    OK, then no one should be critcitizing Joker as HC either as all he had to work with were Brooks' leftovers. Thanks.

    vhcat1970

  • mjdotson said...

    I like Minter and his scheme on defense, but I don't think he is up to the task of recruiting ANYWHERE. He is never mentioned in connection with any recruits. I know that isn't too terribly uncommon for a coordinator.

    If you ever listen to him he doesn't sound like the most personable person in the world. He'd be a tough sell in a living room, but I have no doubt schematically he's better than anything we've had in the last 20 years. He's a legit SEC level defensive playcaller and coordinator, just not sure he's a dinner table salesman/recruiter.

    dailyminefield

  • 5368ppi said...

    I think you were referring to another post of mine.

    As far as Rick Minter goes, he did join the staff in late November, 2010 and National Signing Day was a little over two months away.

    My problem is that so many on this board were so very critical of Steve Brown, saying (among other things) that he couldn't recruit. Rick Minter was the head coach at the University of Cincinnati for TEN years and yet, he has not landed even one player from that rich hotbed to come to UK last year or this year.

    Very disappointing! Southwestern Ohio is a natural, fertile recruiting turf for Kentucky and needs to be developed by someone. It doesn't look like Minter is up to the task.

    I never understood why people lie on a message board to try to prove a stupid point. But once again it happens here. Minter was brought in on December 16th, not late November. Not a big deal, but why lie about it. I was actually there at his first practice as it was open to the public at the Nutter Indoor Facility.

    Here is the article to prove it.

    http://www.ukathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121610aaa.html

    Either way, he came here to change the defense around and thats all I care about. Brown couldn't coach or recruit and that is why the fan base wanted him gone.

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    princeuk21

  • princeuk21 said...

    I never understood why people lie on a message board to try to prove a stupid point. But once again it happens here. Minter was brought in on December 16th, not late November. Not a big deal, but why lie about it. I was actually there at his first practice as it was open to the public at the Nutter Indoor Facility.

    Here is the article to prove it.

    http://www.ukathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121610aaa.html

    Either way, he came here to change the defense around and thats all I care about. Brown couldn't coach or recruit and that is why the fan base wanted him gone.

    Lie is a little strong.

    My intent was not to give false information. I missed it by two weeks. I was at that practice as well and my apologizes for not getting the date exactly right. I didn't have it on my calendar, I am glad you had it on yours and were able to correct such a blatant twisting of the truth.

    5368ppi

  • 5368ppi said...

    Lie is a little strong.

    My intent was not to give false information. I missed it by two weeks. I was at that practice as well and my apologizes for not getting the date exactly right. I didn't have it on my calendar, I am glad you had it on yours and were able to correct such a blatant twisting of the truth.

    So wait a second, you call out another poster (CobbyCobb) for not having the right information and then you get a little snippy with me because you did not have the right information. Strange?!

    This post was edited by princeuk21 on 2/16/2012 at 6:08 PM

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  • princeuk21 said...

    So wait a second, you call out another poster (CobbyCobb) for not having the right information and then you get a little snippy with me because you did not have the right information. Strange?!

    He never called Cobby any names, you called the guy a liar...over missing it by a couple weeks. Just attack the post, not the poster.

    I like Minter but agree with point he is trying to make. For a guy with supposed major connections in the Cincy area we have yet to see the benefits of these connections. Not sayin we wont...just haven't yet. I think what he was trying to say is that Minter seems to be given a pass so far for a lack of recruiting impact while Brown was getting hammered for not being a string recruiter (which BTW was key in sighing several kids) and make no mistake about it, Steve Brown is an excellent position coach. I'm really hoping that Cassidy will Minter out in Ohio.

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  • tommy said...

    He never called Cobby any names, you called the guy a liar...over missing it by a couple weeks. Just attack the post, not the poster.

    I like Minter but agree with point he is trying to make. For a guy with supposed major connections in the Cincy area we have yet to see the benefits of these connections. Not sayin we wont...just haven't yet. I think what he was trying to say is that Minter seems to be given a pass so far for a lack of recruiting impact while Brown was getting hammered for not being a string recruiter (which BTW was key in sighing several kids) and make no mistake about it, Steve Brown is an excellent position coach. I'm really hoping that Cassidy will Minter out in Ohio.

    I never hammered Brown for his lack of recruiting. I hammered him for playing the same ole vanilla defense all the time. I've seen him get hammered for his recruiting but I've mostly seen him get hammered for the reason I mentioned.

    tWhit

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