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The Jon Embree Situation at CU Depresses Me

  • I don't have any affection or connection towards Colorado but watching a guy get fired after two years...

    I don't know if any of you saw the video of his press conference (I'll put the link at the end) but it made me sick. Is this where we are at? Is this what it has is come to? The guy had nothing to work with, was dealing with a trainwreck of a program and got the short end of the stick. Just a pathetic, embarrassing moment for that school. I said this in another thread but it makes me second guess my love for this whole college athletics thing. How well respected was the guy in a tough situation? His entire staff offered to resign if he would be retained.

    This post was edited by MoC on 11/26/2012 at 9:09 PM

    As a tearful Jon Embree exits, Colorado becomes a national farce | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports

    From the blog Dr. Saturday: As Jon Embree sat in his final press conference with tears welling in his eyes, one of his players yelled out from the back of the room. Embree, a former Colorado … Continue reading →

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    MoC

  • Yea I saw it. Never recall hearing the guys name ever mentioned but I couldn't help but feel for the guy.

    Hodge

  • College athletics is a dirty business. I enjoy it a billion times more now that I'm not exposed to its inner workings every single day.

    Beavis13

  • Beavis13 said...

    College athletics is a dirty business. I enjoy it a billion times more now that I'm not exposed to its inner workings every single day.

    I understand that but the guy got thrown under a bus for a situation he didn't create.

    I just look around and see a labor pool vastly exploited (even when factoring in under the table inducements), Athletic Departments running up huge deficits, billions of dollars thrown around for tv contracts and now we're going to start firing guys after 1 recruiting class at a program (who is by all accounts broke) who had hit rock bottom after a five year disaster of Hawkins and major scandal with Barnett.

    I just wonder if it's too much about the business at this point.

    This post was edited by MoC on 11/26/2012 at 9:22 PM

    MoC

  • It's always been about business. Always. The only thing is the money is bigger now. And, necessarily, so are the stakes.

    And I don't feel that sorry for coaches these days. He was paid well for his time. Tell me where he could get a tenth of what they were paying him in the real world. I'm sure he'll get a nice litte buyout to tide him over as well. And no one pointed a gun at his head to take the job. He knew the risks. Or he should have.

    Beavis13

  • Beavis13 said...

    It's always been about business. Always. The only thing is the money is bigger now. And, necessarily, so are the stakes.

    And I don't feel that sorry for coaches these days. He was paid well for his time. Tell me where he could get a tenth of what they were paying him in the real world. I'm sure he'll get a nice litte buyout to tide him over as well. And no one pointed a gun at his head to take the job. He knew the risks. Or he should have.

    I agree. It's been like that since Harvard-Yale figured out how much money they could make by selling out old Yankee stadium. When they were paying shell shocked WWI vets to show up to play in games to beat the shit out of one another. The pot just has gotten bigger...

    But there is something wrong about this. Look at the guy: An alum, left his NFL job to take over a mess. Program is basically broke, facilities are crap, he's dealing with a monumental clustertouch in a brand new conference with said crappy facilities, no talent and a culture of losing from the last two regimes and he doesn't even have enough chairs for his O-line to sit in during film meetings...

    And he's fired after his second season. There's something wrong about that and I think college athletics are heading to a tipping point where something's going to implode. I've seen some work done by economists suggesting that the next bubble is the "sports bubble" and I wonder what exactly will happen? Will we all just move on and find something new to feed our visceral bloodlust? I don't know but I can't dismiss this situation as "them's the breaks" because it's just so shitty.

    This post was edited by MoC on 11/26/2012 at 9:47 PM

    MoC

  • I agree with the op in theory but these coaches are well paid. They are millionaires. I find it very difficult to feel sorry for any millionaire when there are millions of people in this country having to decide monthly if they want to keep the lights on or eat or buy medicine. "Sorry Billy, you don't get a new coat this year. We need the money for food." When you think about it in those terms who really gives a shit about a millionaire coach that'll have a new well paid coaching gig before the ink is dry on his walking papers.

    And I mean no offense to rich people. Well done for getting well paid or well done on being born into a family that has money. I'm just saying I'm not going to feel sorry for you if you lose your job. A million + is a nice nest egg to tide you over.

    This post was edited by CarlLexington on 11/27/2012 at 8:14 AM

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    CarlLexington

  • CarlLexington said...

    I agree with the op in theory but these coaches are well paid. They are millionaires. I find it very difficult to feel sorry for any millionaire when there are millions of people in this country having to decide monthly if they want to keep the lights on or eat or buy medicine. "Sorry Billy, you don't get a new coat this year. We need the money for food." When you think about it in those terms who really gives a shit about a millionaire coach that'll have a new well paid coaching gig before the ink is dry on his walking papers.

    And I mean no offense to rich people. Well done for getting well paid or well done on being born into a family that has money. I'm just saying I'm not going to feel sorry for you if you lose your job. A million + is a nice nest egg to tide you over.

    I don't think he cared about the money. He cared about the school and his players and it showed.

    We can talk about market principles and all that jazz but do we want to completely ignore the human factor? I don't think he was in tears over his loss of income or even getting fired. A lot of coaches would have just left and not even showed up to that press conference. Have we become that jaded and cynical where our only thought is "Well, he got paid. So"?

    MoC

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