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whodatdare said...
Why would these facts show anything? I have a few really quick questions: First: Why would Kanter be included? He would have been a top five kid anyway. Everyone knew him before he committed to Kentucky.
Second: You mention the 3 #1 picks. Out of Curiosity, where were they ranked out of high school? All #1 or two anyway? Derrick Rose was in SI in H.S. article that said he'd have been #1 out of H.S. if he could have. That was before he picked Memphis. So, really, No Cal factor there. I don't know much about Wall. Maybe he was helped by the "Cal" factor. But, Anthony Davis was being pushed as the best player before he walked through the door. Sometimes, you are the number one pick because you are just that talented, and CAL has nothing to do with that.
Third: as far as all of the Kentucky guys drafted, how many were not a four or five star 'spect? Serious question. I don't even know who they are. I can tell you, the 3 guys drafted from Maryland, ZERO were. Maryland hadn't had a guy in the top 50 since Mike Jones. Shaq Cleare finally broke that.
Now, not a question, but a comment. Mark Turgeon is not Gary Williams when recruiting is the topic. He'll play the game. He took Jake Layman away from Billy Donovan, Jim Boeheim, Rick Pitino, etc. And, as far as the TWINS are concerned, when Turg was at A&M, the twins had A&M in their final five (along with Maryland). the moment he left, the aggies were off the list. Their dad LOVES Turge.
I think it's a 55-45 Kentucky lean, but those saying 75 are crazy off.
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cobbycobb said...
Hello, Did you forget about us? Maryland wasn't a doormat by any means. Maryland has a good history prior to Williams arrival. Tubby Smith couldn't recruit at UK because he refused to deal with the AAU coaches also... hmmm.... another similarity.
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tWhit said...
The fact is a coach can hinder a player tremendously in college. Ben Howland seems to be really good at it. Cal doesn't hinder a guy. He lets them play and puts them in position to be successful. So not only can the kids win and win big as shown last year, they can also maximize their draft potential. The Twins know this as do many other kids which is why UK consistently shows up as the favorite for many top kids.
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whodatdare said...
My point is, he gets the kids that can get to the league anyway. with or without him. I'm not talking twins here, I'm talking in general. It's easy to claim all these drafted kids when most are sure fire NBAers before stepping foot in Rupp.
This post was edited by tWhit on 8/10/2012 at 12:59 AM
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Nate87 said...
Without bothering to read your entire post let me name two top recruits Quincy Miller and Josh Selby. I'd put good money on it had either ended up at UK they would be lotto picks. They didn't and the rest is history.
Plus, my point is still valid since '08 Maryland has 3 draft picks and Cal has 3 of the last 5 #1 picks. That obviously irritates you, but it's a fact. Cal prepares these kids for the pros better than anyone.
I'm not saying the twins couldn't be lotto picks after one year with UMD, rather it's less likely than if they attended UK. I don't see how that is so hard for you all to understand. It's the same if they picked UNC over UMD.
Lastly, if you all are so confident it is as close as you claim what is point of coming here and trolling? Why not sit back quietly and confidently until the recruitment is over?
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whodatdare said...
1st, there is no proof that either player would have done any better. Some kids just won't buy into hard work. Selby played for one of the best coaches in the game. Miller... well, not so much. I probably would give you that one based on Drew being an idiot.
Second... that doesn't irritate me at all. the guy is a great recruiter. He was, at one time, my favorite coach behind Gary... when he was at UMASS. Started losing respect for him after the vacating of wins/etc.
Third, the Lottery is 12 deep. They don't all attend Kentucky. I'll give you top 3.
Lastly, when did I say i was confident they were coming? I said I thought you guys had the edge. I just disagree that it would be any harder for them being lottery picks at UMD as Kentucky. Talent gets drafted early. Doesn't matter where you go.
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tWhit said...
Not necessarily. Like I tried to point out to you coaches can hinder a kid and then all of a sudden the kid has all these question marks. I agree they'd be lottery either way but if they go to UK they'll be top 5 picks. The difference may be minimal but it can be all the difference when choosing a school. If kids didn't think Cal knew what he was doing they wouldn't be coming to UK by the droves.
"Started losing respect for him after the vacating of wins." You prove right here that you're as dumb as the average fan. Did Cal have anything to do with Camby getting paid? NOPE. Did he have anything to do with the DRose SAT debacle? NOPE. If you wanna come to a UK board and put in your two cents you have to at least be smarter than the average Loserville fan.
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tWhit said...
Not necessarily. Like I tried to point out to you coaches can hinder a kid and then all of a sudden the kid has all these question marks. I agree they'd be lottery either way but if they go to UK they'll be top 5 picks. The difference may be minimal but it can be all the difference when choosing a school. If kids didn't think Cal knew what he was doing they wouldn't be coming to UK by the droves.
"Started losing respect for him after the vacating of wins." You prove right here that you're as dumb as the average fan. Did Cal have anything to do with Camby getting paid? NOPE. Did he have anything to do with the DRose SAT debacle? NOPE. If you wanna come to a UK board and put in your two cents you have to at least be smarter than the average Loserville fan.
And if Cal was at Louisville, you would be saying the same thing. LOL And, you're right, if we weren't going for the same player, I wouldn't have said it. That's what makes sport fun! I'm really rooting for you guys to get Wiggins/Rathom/Randle/ and james young or jabari parker.
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