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usa1000 said...
Generally speaking I agree. However some coaches and schemes definitely get more out of their players than others. For example, Texas has had a Top 5 recruiting class every year for the past 4 years. How has that worked out for them? Mac Brown has run into some hotshot coaches over there in the Big 12 that aren't going to sit back and try to play smash mouth football against a bunch of 6'3" 340 DT's and big LBers that can fly. The Big 12 has figured out to spread those guys out and use space. OU, OSU, KSU, and Mizzou all play a form of the spread and all have less talent than Texas (one could argue OU) and they all beat UT this year.
It is great to have the best talent, but you better be able to coach and scheme it up also.
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Jeff Drummond said...
The assertion is that UK is trying to stubbornly run a rigid scheme that does not allow it to compensate for the talent deficit. That's not true. UK's pretty multiple in what they do. They've tried almost anything and everything short of the wishbone and the Stack-I this year. They just haven't had the ammo this year to run a strong offense of any kind. If they turn recruiting misses into hits, Joker Phillips, Randy Sanders, Tee Martin and Mike Summers will once again have one of the better offensive units in the league. They've proven that in the past. The key is recruiting.
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Jeff Drummond said...
The assertion is that UK is trying to stubbornly run a rigid scheme that does not allow it to compensate for the talent deficit. That's not true. UK's pretty multiple in what they do. They've tried almost anything and everything short of the wishbone and the Stack-I this year. They just haven't had the ammo this year to run a strong offense of any kind. If they turn recruiting misses into hits, Joker Phillips, Randy Sanders, Tee Martin and Mike Summers will once again have one of the better offensive units in the league. They've proven that in the past. The key is recruiting.
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KSt said...
EXACTLY! There are a bevy of coaches that know how to implement offensive and defensive schemes. Doesn't make a difference without players. UK had none this season and even in past seasons only had a handful. If there is something to shake your head at it's this staffs apparent inability to bring in consistently good recruiting classes. And I could use a little more fire and moxy from the head coach but he says that's not him. Looking at next season I have a real hard time finding 6 wins next season. All that said, hats off to the staff for beating UT with a whole lotta style points.
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hoptownukfan said...
I agree on the offense. But scheme was a huge part of our awful defense when steve brown was the coordinator. We had nfl starters all over our front 7 a few years back and we still couldn't stop the run.
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hoptownukfan said...
I disagree. I can see us winning all of our non-conference games. I can see possible wins in the sec vs. miss. state, mizzou, vandy, tennessee, uscjr and possibly south carolina at our place depending on how lattimore recovers.
With an upgrade at db coach and at corner back our defense is a LOT better. Our offense should also be better. Maxwell smith could end up being one of the better qb's we've had at uk EVER. Big statement, I know. He's got a BEAUTIFUL release. Something that even Couch, Lorenzen, or Woodson never had. The kid likely has the strongest arm of those three too. Sanders is on recrod as saying Maxwell's arm is the strongest he's ever coached.
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tommy said...
You don't see anything for two reasons. 1.) You simply don't have the understanding to know what your looking at. Obvious by your posts. 2.) You don't want to see it. Fans like you (although will NEVER admit it) don't want the program to succeed, so that you have something to hate and match whatever misery you already have. To constantly have something to bitch about. Its sad really.
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Warmother51 said...
Edge IMO we were on our way to climbing the "ladder after 06 and 07, then we had the AWFUL classes of 08 and 09. Outside of 3-4 players those classes are worthless. Something like 10 of 50 arent on the team any more. For whatever reason those classes were just misses. We could have continued to climb if those were better classes. I truly believe if we hit on some of those kids we would be sitting around 8-9 wins this season and look where that would have put us in the east. With a very legit shot. Those classes hurt us worse than most realize. I dont believe its ALL about players or ALL about scheme but you have to have talent in both areas. A scheme can hide a couple guys by putting them in position to make plays. Talent can overcome some lackluster schemes. If we get both together we get an O like 07 and a D like we havent seen in a long time.
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