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Top Coaches... We Should Seriously Consider

  • miami said...

    What about Butch Davis UK fans?

    Possibly... but nowhere near the top of my list.

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    JawJacker

  • We need to bring back someone from the dead. You know who I'm thinking? ZOMBIE MF'ING VINCE LOMBARDI!!!! He could motivate anyone and in his new form he could do some serious motivating by threatening to eat your brains! I'd say every ball thrown to our receivers would be caught. sick

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  • Nate87 said...

    We need to bring back someone from the dead. You know who I'm thinking? ZOMBIE MF'ING VINCE LOMBARDI!!!! He could motivate anyone and in his new form he could do some serious motivating by threatening to eat your brains! I'd say every ball thrown to our receivers would be caught. sick

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    JawJacker

  • To the poster that mentioned Rob Ryan I LOVE that idea. He actually used to spend his summers in the state as his dad Buddy Ryan had a horse farm in the state. His father also still lives here in Shelby County too. (FYI, he underwent surgery recently in Lexington so please pray for him. Not sure what the surgery was for though.)

    Rob also coached at WKU back in 87. He has coaching experience in Ohio, TN, and Juco ranks too. He is a dynamite DC and would bring the fire and passion that the fanbase and players need too. He isn't nearly as flamboyant as his twin Rex but I've said for years that we should go after one of them.

    This post was edited by cobbycobb on 9/22/2011 at 1:21 AM

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  • cobbycobb said...

    To the poster that mentioned Rob Ryan I LOVE that idea. He actually used to spend his summers in the state as his dad Buddy Ryan had a horse farm in the state. His father also still lives here in Shelby County too. (FYI, he underwent surgery recently in Lexington so please pray for him. Not sure what the surgery was for though.)

    Rob also coached at WKU back in 87. He has experience coaching experience in Ohio, TN, and Juco ranks too. He is a dynamite DC and would bring the fire and passion that the fanbase and players need too. He isn't nearly as flamboyant as his twin Rex but I've said for years that we should go after one of them.

    I would love that!!!

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  • Who wouldn't love Rob Ryan? Problem is another NFL team is gonna love him too. Give me a freakin break......Rob Ryan....lol.

    tWhit

  • tWhit said...

    Who wouldn't love Rob Ryan? Problem is another NFL team is gonna love him too. Give me a freakin break......Rob Ryan....lol.

    Buddy Ryan, his father, has a horse farm in Kentucky. He was a NFL coach for various teams over a 27 year career.

    Bob was also a graduate assistant at Western Kentucky in 1987
    So, there is a connection with Kentucky.

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  • tWhit said...

    Who wouldn't love Rob Ryan? Problem is another NFL team is gonna love him too. Give me a freakin break......Rob Ryan....lol.

    I was the one who proposed Rob Ryan... The dude was FIRED last year when Eric Mangini got the boot... Rob Ryan was also on the Raiders staff and was fired there...he took the reigns over for Paul Pasqualoni who accepted the UConn job.

    So two things that debunk your theory:

    1) Rob Ryan is a known commodity in NFL circles and has NEVER sniffed a HC job. I don't see how he's all of a sudden on some NFL fast track because his twin is having success.

    2) It is obvious Jerry Jones isn't paying outlandish salaries to coordinators if he's being outbid by UConn.

    The case for Rob Ryan:

    As mentioned, he has professional and familial ties to KY. His beloved father is currently battling cancer. I'm sure being close to home would be a tremendous draw in addition to doubling (or so) his current salary.

    (It's too bad no one at UKs admin took the time to seek out Jack Harbaughs boys for a football interview.)

    The dude is ebullient, recognizable and has NFL expectations on how a program is run.

    I live in NYC and I hear Rex talk every day. If his identical twin and best friend has half the football chops as he does... The hiring of Rob Ryan (to non FB UK fans) is a 'slam dunk'. I think you can recognize that term

    Rich Brooks should be hired as director of football operations and guide with a heavy fist a selection committee and a capital campaign effort to implement REAL change to the status quo.

    Kooky Kats 247

  • First of all, no "big time coach" will come to UK without written and signed deals that would financially support this program. That won't happen in our lifetimes. Therefore, let's all enjoy the thrashing Florida will give us without breaking a sweat. Then we can talk about how well recruiting is going and how we are "this close" to winning SEC championships.

    SanAntonioCat

  • Like I said of course we'd love to have Rob Ryan so you don't have to sell me on him. And there might be a UK connection but I highly doubt he would consider the job. I'm pretty sure he's looking for a head job in the NFL. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen. I highly doubt he wants to come to college to coach. Much less Kentucky. No one will ever convince me that we have a shot at Rob
    Ryan.

    tWhit

  • tWhit said...

    No one will ever convince me that we have a shot at Rob Ryan.

    Well, I just spoke with Rob on the phone and he told me he'd love the opportunity to be HC of UK Football if and when the job became available.

    Are you convinced now?

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    JawJacker

  • He needs a hair cut....Doesn't have the look of a head coach; but has a hell of a look as a defensive coordinator.

    Panama

  • Panama said...

    He needs a hair cut....Doesn't have the look of a head coach; but has a hell of a look as a defensive coordinator.

    Really... long hair disqualifies someone as a HC? I'm not sure what the "look" is for a HC, but I'd take a long haired HC with a wealth of football smarts, over a short haired dumbass any day.

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  • JawJacker said...

    Joker fan or not... we have to assume the worst. Lets say we finish this season with 3 or 4 wins... and fail to make a bowl. I will also, assume that Joker gets another year to turn it around. In the meantime, we should prepare for the worst case scenario... Joker fails to do enough to maintain his job. Now, we must find a worthy replacement... one who will ignite excitement in the fan base and create a buzz in our football program that will ring in ears all over the country. Who could we possibly look to in 2013 who is capable of doing exactly that? I have a short list of Coaches who I would be excited about... for various, but different reasons.

    1st - Pete Carroll He should be about done in Seattle about that same time... and anxious to return to College Football. It's what he loves the most. Prior to his final season with USC, we can't ignore what he accomplished as Head Coach of the Trojans. Not to mention, his ties to the NFL... that's a great selling point to potential recruits.

    2nd - Urban Meyer He should be anxious to return to Coaching by then as well. Two or three years is the normal time it takes before a great Coach gets the itch to coach again... especially, when they know they left the game too early. I think he prefers the challenge of building a program verses taking over one that's already of the elite status... like LSU for example. This way, he puts "HIS OWN" stamp on the program... that is much more rewarding to a great coach.

    3rd - Bobby Petrino The obvious reason is, so that I can buy a T-Shirt that reads... GOT PETRINO? biggrinMore importantly though is... the man is an Offensive Genius! Lord knows, that is where we are lacking the most. He's a great play caller as well... and has a knack for racking up yardage. It's not uncommon for his Offenses to put up 500 or 600 yards... ground and air combined (along with 40 or 50 pts). HOW GREAT WOULD THAT BE?!!! Another guilty pleasure, would be the joy of listening to the Card fans cry about it. The KARMA would be so sweet to witness.

    The last thing to realize is, we would have to show the world how serious we are about building a powerhouse football program... and offer our new Coach the highest paying HC salary in the nation. We need to go all out... PERIOD!

    I don't think we should even be entertaining that question at this time.

    HOWEVER, just speaking in general terms about the names you throw out... If UK were to EVER hire one of those guys and they had success, do you know how long it would take them to be out the door and on to their next pay raise? You wouldn't even have a chance to blink.

    That's what it's important for UK to get things right with Joker. He represents long-term stability IF they can right this ship and bring in some more talent.

    If they don't, you're looking at the same revolving door of fail that UK has experienced for decades.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't think we should even be entertaining that question at this time.

    HOWEVER, just speaking in general terms about the names you throw out... If UK were to EVER hire one of those guys and they had success, do you know how long it would take them to be out the door and on to their next pay raise? You wouldn't even have a chance to blink.

    That's what it's important for UK to get things right with Joker. He represents long-term stability IF they can right this ship and bring in some more talent.

    If they don't, you're looking at the same revolving door of fail that UK has experienced for decades.

    That makes great sense. I truly hope that Joker turns it around... long term stability is the ideal way to go, but it MUST be with a winning Coach. I'm all for it. Seriously, if Joker can just make some key staff changes and light a fire under some asses.. he (we) may still have a shot at making great things happen.

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    JawJacker

  • Been trying to explain the exact same thing to UK fans for awhile. We need Joker to succeed badly. Thats why people need to support the program and put asses in the seats. Still I think its to a point now where something pretty miraculous would have to happen for fans to jump back on the wagon. Maybe beat UF and UT in the same year or just beat UT in that final game to go 7-5 or even to go 6-6 and then win a bowl game pretty decisively.

    tWhit

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    That's what it's important for UK to get things right with Joker. He represents long-term stability IF they can right this ship and bring in some more talent.

    If they don't, you're looking at the same revolving door of fail that UK has experienced for decades.

    Of course this makes sense, and there is no way that the revolving door of coaches has produced anything but instability for the program, and certainly UK would benefit, I think, from an overall elevation of the talent level of the players.

    However, what I have seen this season, and I suppose the end of last season, is an absence of enthusiasm on the part of the coaches and the players during the games. I don't see their demeanor during practices. I don't know any of these people on a personal level and have no idea how they are in their personal lives. However, I see them on game days on the TV. With very rare exception, I do not see any excitement about being there, wanting to play, much less wanting to win.

    I have watched UK teams play football on a continuous basis without missing [very many] games for several decades. I have seen teams that finished with only a minimal number of wins for their efforts that played with more enthusiasm and excitement than this team. I don't see that enthusiasm in the demeanor of the coaches either.

    Both concern me.

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  • Great post Professor... you nailed it. "Enthusiasm" is the word I was looking for in an earlier post. That's what they've been lacking more than anything. It starts with Joker there... if he fails to show any emotion (enthusiasm), then how can we expect the players to? I see NOTHING from him on the sideline... from the kickoff to the final whistle.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't think we should even be entertaining that question at this time.

    HOWEVER, just speaking in general terms about the names you throw out... If UK were to EVER hire one of those guys and they had success, do you know how long it would take them to be out the door and on to their next pay raise? You wouldn't even have a chance to blink.

    That's what it's important for UK to get things right with Joker. He represents long-term stability IF they can right this ship and bring in some more talent.

    If they don't, you're looking at the same revolving door of fail that UK has experienced for decades.

    But IMHO that's where the UKAA is to blame. Why let a good coach leave? Why not pay him & his assistants enough money to stay long term? And do the things needed to move UK football forward to the middle level of the SEC like a new recruiting room, update CWS.

    UK fans want a successful football program and if the UKAA would do it's part we could be a great BB & FB program in the SEC.

    We can have both.

    Whitaker568

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    If UK were to EVER hire one of those guys and they had success, do you know how long it would take them to be out the door and on to their next pay raise? You wouldn't even have a chance to blink.

    ^ This has NEVER been a problem for UK football coaches. We never have a hot prospect coach, just professional tombstones.

    As a matter of fact it would be a great and fresh problem to have that I would welcome.

    There currently is a disconnect from top-to-bottom with the program. It looks poorly managed, marketed and pales to the conference competition. Yet, there we are drinking in the spoils of other teams' success.

    Everybody on here is talking about the UKAA taking the football program seriously... To hell with a recruiting room, I would take a REAL SEC/NFL coach as the first serious priority and let the success pay for the additions and renovations that the will come after some serious wins Not only that, if Joker got an early hook (like Gillespie) - Mitch would make a statement about how the expectations for the program need to be raised.

    Then, we will need to divert football money to football costs...and get this thing rolling.

    Kooky Kats 247

  • JawJacker said...

    Possibly... but nowhere near the top of my list.

    Put the crack pipe down, my friend! You would really consider cutting Joker loose to hire Butch "scholarship reductions from 0 to 60 in two years" Davis?

    BigTyrone

  • BigTyrone said...

    Put the crack pipe down, my friend! You would really consider cutting Joker loose to hire Butch "scholarship reductions from 0 to 60 in two years" Davis?

    Too early to tell, but by the end of the season, Butch Davis may be a welcome change. Seriously though... Nah, I would much rather see Joker turn things around. He can make a few good moves and remain our HC for a while.

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  • I think Jeff and all the people associated with the staff here are being kind and believe what they say but if the answer is Joker staying "til" he gets it right then UK is doomed. That has always been my problem with that thinking. Define getting it right? Is it win 6 games? Is it going to "any" bowl game? Remember that has been the norm for the past few years, win 6 games and go to a bowl and I just don't see how that has improved the program to win games in the SEC.

    The yard stick to measure improvement should be how we play against Florida not Louisville.

    A dummied down schedule can't hide the fact UK is a fundamentally bad football team.

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  • I can't remember if I posted this here or on another site, so sorry if this is redundant.

    Steve Addazio at Temple. He was the OC at Florida with Meyer. He has ties to the Florida area in regards to recruiting. Now, the issue is if he has any moderate success at UK does he jump ship?

    I do like the Rob Ryan scenario.

    bigbluemist

  • I like Kirby Smart. Do what Florida did. Hire Smart and push him to bring in some big time OC. Of course we probably won't get someone the caliber of Weis, but if we could get a pretty decent name then I think we'd have a solid coaching staff, or at least a start to one.

    Comebakatz