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Two More Reasons Anthony Davis is Runaway POY

  • With credit to ESPN stats, here are two comments from their UK-Vandy update today that give further reasons as to why Anthony Davis should be the runaway winner of the NCAA player of the year award.

    1. Anthony Davis finishes with career-high 28 points and 6 blocks. No other player in last 15 years had done that while shooting 90% from field. The last player to score as many as 25 points on 90% FG shooting while blocking 6 shots was Northern Illinois' James Hughes in November of 2006.

    2. This is the 4th game this season with 22 pts, 8 rebounds & 5 blocks for Kentucky's Anthony Davis. The rest of the PLAYERS IN THE SIX MAJOR CONFERENCES HAVE just 3 such games combined.

    Knowbody

  • Wow. Those stats are insane! He should definitely be NPOY.

    eagle_man

  • You can make a case for Thomas Robinson or Anthony Davis but the way I see it, both are comparable on the offensive end/rebounding but Davis is so much more valuable on the defensive end and UK is No. 1.

    Edge Davis.

    This post was edited by Chris Fisher on 2/25/2012 at 9:21 PM

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  • I do think the edge does to Davis but in no way could I think by runaway. Thomas Robinson is a bad bad man. He is a beast. Period. The two biggest arguments for each guy are strong;

    As Chris stated in the posted above, AD makes such a HUGE impact on the game defensively. It has been ssquad several times that he is worth are least 15 points before the game starts, and he is the best player on the best team (if you wanna go that route)

    I think Robinson has been unbelievable all season. It was against UK that he got everyone attention by posting a double double with 12 points and 12 boards (AD with 14 points 6 boards and 6 blocks) KU has played something like 7 top 10 teams going 4-3, that's not bad. They are a top 5 team and with their win yesterday probably lead for a #1 over Puke. The thing is, take away Robinson and all that doesn't happen. KU might not make the tournament without him. That's his biggest argument. If UK losses AD,we aren't the #1 team in the country buy we are still top 25 and a tourney team.

    Don't forget that Robinson lead by a mile not ling ago. The question is whether or not AD has will have convinced enough writers (we all know now those A holes can be...LOL) that he is your clear cut POY. This will be tough and the reason I believe that IF AD wins it will not be a runaway by any means.

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    tommy

  • Chris,

    I also think you have to look at the offensive efficiency for Davis. He is getting his offensive numbers on like 8.9 shot attempts a game versus 20 shot attempts per gave for TR. I thought 2 weeks ago you could make the argument for TR a little better but over the last 2 or 3 weeks Davis has asserted himself offensively when we have needed it. Most impressively for a freshman... It has only been when we have needed it. I cannot recall a game all year where Davis tried to push things instead of letting the game come to him. He has one bad shooting game all year and even that game he did press the issue and start making bad decisions. I have never seen a freshman like him.

    Just referenced the Hollinger Player Efficiency Statistics: Davis is 1 with a rating of 36.16, next closest is Damian Lilliard at Weber with a 34.08, and Robinson is at number 19 with a rating of 28.86.

    Then add the shots changed the fact that all teams must either give up driving to the bucket or find a way to get Davis out of the middle to have a chance of many points in the paint.

    This post was edited by rjray on 2/26/2012 at 9:19 AM

    rjray

  • tommy said...

    I do think the edge does to Davis but in no way could I think by runaway. Thomas Robinson is a bad bad man. He is a beast. Period. The two biggest arguments for each guy are strong;

    As Chris stated in the posted above, AD makes such a HUGE impact on the game defensively. It has been ssquad several times that he is worth are least 15 points before the game starts, and he is the best player on the best team (if you wanna go that route)

    I think Robinson has been unbelievable all season. It was against UK that he got everyone attention by posting a double double with 12 points and 12 boards (AD with 14 points 6 boards and 6 blocks) KU has played something like 7 top 10 teams going 4-3, that's not bad. They are a top 5 team and with their win yesterday probably lead for a #1 over Puke. The thing is, take away Robinson and all that doesn't happen. KU might not make the tournament without him. That's his biggest argument. If UK losses AD,we aren't the #1 team in the country buy we are still top 25 and a tourney team.

    Don't forget that Robinson lead by a mile not ling ago. The question is whether or not AD has will have convinced enough writers (we all know now those A holes can be...LOL) that he is your clear cut POY. This will be tough and the reason I believe that IF AD wins it will not be a runaway by any means.

    Though I agree with what you're saying Tommy the reality is both are on their respective teams. So the argument about whether or not one team would be terrible without their star and the other wouldn't is irrelevant IMO. I think Robinson is deserving, but his overall impact is less than Davis'.

    But, to play that game could you imagine AD's stats if he was the focus of UK's offense? They guy would average 20+ while doing everything else he's done.

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  • Nate87 said...

    Though I agree with what you're saying Tommy the reality is both are on their respective teams. So the argument about whether or not one team would be terrible without their star and the other wouldn't is irrelevant IMO. I think Robinson is deserving, but his overall impact is less than Davis'.

    But, to play that game could you imagine AD's stats if he was the focus of UK's offense? They guy would average 20+ while doing everything else he's done.

    Nate I wasn't at all trying to say AD should win it or doesn't deserve it. I was only sayin that IMO its not, nor should be a runaway by either player.

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    tommy

  • rjray said...

    Chris,

    I also think you have to look at the offensive efficiency for Davis. He is getting his offensive numbers on like 8.9 shot attempts a game versus 20 shot attempts per gave for TR. I thought 2 weeks ago you could make the argument for TR a little better but over the last 2 or 3 weeks Davis has asserted himself offensively when we have needed it. Most impressively for a freshman... It has only been when we have needed it. I cannot recall a game all year where Davis tried to push things instead of letting the game come to him. He has one bad shooting game all year and even that game he did press the issue and start making bad decisions. I have never seen a freshman like him.

    Just referenced the Hollinger Player Efficiency Statistics: Davis is 1 with a rating of 36.16, next closest is Damian Lilliard at Weber with a 34.08, and Robinson is at number 19 with a rating of 28.86.

    Then add the shots changed the fact that all teams must either give up driving to the bucket or find a way to get Davis out of the middle to have a chance of many points in the paint.

    Oh no question. Saturday, Davis got 28 points on 11 shots. It took Robinson 21 shots to get 28 points.

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  • Knowbody said...

    With credit to ESPN stats, here are two comments from their UK-Vandy update today that give further reasons as to why Anthony Davis should be the runaway winner of the NCAA player of the year award.

    1. Anthony Davis finishes with career-high 28 points and 6 blocks. No other player in last 15 years had done that while shooting 90% from field. The last player to score as many as 25 points on 90% FG shooting while blocking 6 shots was Northern Illinois' James Hughes in November of 2006.

    2. This is the 4th game this season with 22 pts, 8 rebounds & 5 blocks for Kentucky's Anthony Davis. The rest of the PLAYERS IN THE SIX MAJOR CONFERENCES HAVE just 3 such games combined.

    While I agree that AD should be a slight favorite to win the national POY ... in no way can you say he's the 'runaway' favorite. It's a close race between him and Robinson.

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    wildcatknh

  • Your thread title says will be, and in your thread says should be. I don't think it will be a runaway no matter who wins and at this point it can go either way.

    ukblueforever

  • Don't forget that there are some that will vote Robinson just because they hate Cal. In a close race this could be a major factor. Cal will lose Coach Of The Year for the same reason.

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  • Nate87 said...

    Though I agree with what you're saying Tommy the reality is both are on their respective teams. So the argument about whether or not one team would be terrible without their star and the other wouldn't is irrelevant IMO. I think Robinson is deserving, but his overall impact is less than Davis'.

    But, to play that game could you imagine AD's stats if he was the focus of UK's offense? They guy would average 20+ while doing everything else he's done.

    Exactly. To put it another way. Excluding Davis and Robinson, UK has better players. What that means to me is that it is much more difficult to be such an overwhelming impact player in the better team, where you have to share everything. IMO Davis will win it easily.

    poliglotcat ●

  • Yes, its a runaway for Davis.

    Some of you just look at Stats too much. SMH

    Watch the game, compare the two and watch how other teams react to Davis and Robinson.

    It's not close, I hope people stop the comparison its getting crazy.

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    Wildmoon ●

  • Davis deserves to be the POY in my opinion. The Cal factor may play a part but the thing that makes me think it will be close is many voters look first at points per game.

    blueboy

  • Knowbody said...

    With credit to ESPN stats, here are two comments from their UK-Vandy update today that give further reasons as to why Anthony Davis should be the runaway winner of the NCAA player of the year award.

    1. Anthony Davis finishes with career-high 28 points and 6 blocks. No other player in last 15 years had done that while shooting 90% from field. The last player to score as many as 25 points on 90% FG shooting while blocking 6 shots was Northern Illinois' James Hughes in November of 2006.

    2. This is the 4th game this season with 22 pts, 8 rebounds & 5 blocks for Kentucky's Anthony Davis. The rest of the PLAYERS IN THE SIX MAJOR CONFERENCES HAVE just 3 such games combined.

    You make a very compelling case with those stats.

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  • rjray said...

    Just referenced the Hollinger Player Efficiency Statistics: Davis is 1 with a rating of 36.16, next closest is Damian Lilliard at Weber with a 34.08, and Robinson is at number 19 with a rating of 28.86.

    Wow. That's a huge gap.

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  • Link to the full Hollinger ratings...

    2011-12 Hollinger Player Statistics - ESPN

    ESPN's John Hollinger ranks the NCAA's players with his exclusive PER formula.

    insider.espn.go.com
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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Wow. That's a huge gap.

    That just one part of this whole argument.

    There are more things he does that can't be added statistically.

    For example, our most recent game where Taylor walks because he saw Davis.

    Or block leading to fast break post because of Davis.

    The story continues....

    ...

    ...

    None of it makes it to statistical category.

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    Wildmoon ●

  • another statistical category thing i found online...

    Cracked Sidewalks: Best 200 basketball players 18 days before Selection Sunday

    The blog that recaps, analyzes and offers opinions on Marquette hoops

    www.crackedsidewalks.com
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  • Chris Fisher said...

    You can make a case for Thomas Robinson or Anthony Davis but the way I see it, both are comparable on the offensive end/rebounding but Davis is so much more valuable on the defensive end and UK is No. 1.

    Edge Davis.

    Mr. Fisher, I look at this away. Teams that play KU, must prepare for Robinson and his Offensive game.
    Against Davis, they must prepare for his Offense and his Defense. He totaly takes games over on both sides of the court. No player has done both in Coll in a very long time.
    DAVIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE NPY

    dvillepro1

  • I hope that being a freshman doesn't hurt him. By this I mean, he obviously gets freshman of the yr; but since he gets that one, will enough voters decide to "spread the wealth" to keep him from getting POY. With those voters logic and statistics won't matter, only their individual agenda(s).

    CatfaninIndiana

  • So many different ways to quantify player of the year. And it's hard to root against Thomas Robinson. Got a chance to speak with him at Lebron and he's such a nice young man.

    But really any way you slice it, I think Davis is POY for both his numbers, efficiency and overall effect on the game for the No. 1 team in the country.

    Plus, couldn't hurt that he won the head to head and played well in doing so ... 14 points, 6 rebounds, 7 blocks

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