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UK Baseball and Gary Henderson

  • UK dropped it's 10th straight SEC contest last night, this time to Ole Miss. UK is now 17-18 overall and 2-11 in the SEC. Heading into this weekend's series, the Cats have been swept three consecutive weekends, including last weekend's sweep at home to a somewhat struggling Auburn squad. UK lost a handful of games in the non-conference schedule to teams it should have handled.

    From what I read, this team appears to have good starting pitching, but VERY little offense, and suspect in game coaching decisions. This UK baseball team is very, very young. But from what I read, much of the need to rely on young players is the result of mass defections last year.

    So at this point, I think it is fair to ask where this program is headed under Gary Henderson's leadership. John Cohen sparked life into the UK program, quickly taking it to new heights and generating buzz about the baseball program. But under Henderson, UK has quickly plunged back to the bottom of the SEC. That's very disappointing.

    For Matt, Jeff, and others around Lexington who make it to games or are otherwise privy to more information, do you think UK will make a change after this season?

    Jeremy Grey

  • The team has gotten worse in each year he has been coach. Sorry but its time to make a move for another coach. We need another Cohen, or maybe do what it takes to get Cohen back home (not like he is dominating at Miss St).

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  • Part of me still wonders if you can have a consistently competitive team at UK in the SEC, given the gawd-awful weather the Cats have to deal with. They've been recruiting well even since Cohen's departure, but can those guys develop to the max when half their season is played when we still are seeing upper-30s temps from time to time? Is it possible that UK just caught lightning in a bottle for a couple years under Cohen?

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  • I've covered six or seven games this season and have paid pretty good attention to the team. I'm with Matt; I think he gets one more year because he is a well-liked guy and his players look up to him.

    The weird thing about this team is, other than some spotty bullpen work, the problems every game are different. The bullpen may not even give up an earned run (technically, that happened last night but what really happened was Kaczmarek gave up runs to a few inherited runners from Meyer) but then the bats go silent. In one game against Auburn last weekend, the usually reliable defense had four errors in three innings, including two from Taylor Black, one of the better defensive shortstops in the league, on the same play. Things like that are hard to blame on in-game coaching decisions, if nothing else.

    I don't know what that says. It could say a number of things. Consistency is a problem, but what causes that? Is it coaching? Is it players? Is it dumb luck? That's a lot of dumb luck to be 2-11 in league play.

    As of right now, I think Henderson will be back — his contract runs through June 30, 2013 although the buyout isn't too big as to make him invincible — but if things keep getting worse this season, that's different.

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  • I live in Nashville and the weather is about like Lexington. Today 49 cloudy and winds of 30 mph. It does not bother Vandy. They are number 1 in the nation. They made a commitment to baseball. They have a beautiful field and draw big crowds. There is no excuse for the UK baseball team to be playing this poorly.

    TNCatfanforever

  • Hmmm, I thought the weather excuse died with the replacement of Madison... Funny how it comes back when the team starts sucking wind again. As someone noted below, the weather in Lexington is not significantly different than the weather in Knoxville and Nashville. Hell, I live in Georgia and usually there isn't even that big of a difference between the weather in Lexington and that in Atlanta. Weather is a crutch (used for years by Madision), IMO...

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  • You can toss in the success of teams in MLB as well. It's a little different, but it's still guys getting it done in the cold weather.

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  • Also, the opposition has to play in the same temperatures when they come to play. Most of early baseball is conditioning, running, tossing, etc...anyway.

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  • Now listening to Saturdays game and fielding has been miserable.

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  • Matt I would not argue that weather is a factor but I also remember that 3 years ago Michigan went to the college World series. I know the best baseball is played in warmer climates but I still can't figure out how Corbin at Vandy has turned them into a national power with limited scholarships and a not so great climate.

    TNCatfanforever

  • The weather issue is a just an excuse. What about Vandy, UConn, Mich. State, and even WKU. You can throw UL in the mix as well. Even though UK beat UL a few days ago, UL is still more competitive.

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  • TNCatfanforever said...

    I live in Nashville and the weather is about like Lexington. Today 49 cloudy and winds of 30 mph. It does not bother Vandy. They are number 1 in the nation. They made a commitment to baseball. They have a beautiful field and draw big crowds. There is no excuse for the UK baseball team to be playing this poorly.

    EXACTLY!!!!

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  • I'm quite certain Mr. Barnhart is on top of the situation. IMO, it doesn't bode well for our Coach Henderson.

    SanAntonioCat

  • JamesPennington said...

    I've covered six or seven games this season and have paid pretty good attention to the team. I'm with Matt; I think he gets one more year because he is a well-liked guy and his players look up to him.

    The weird thing about this team is, other than some spotty bullpen work, the problems every game are different. The bullpen may not even give up an earned run (technically, that happened last night but what really happened was Kaczmarek gave up runs to a few inherited runners from Meyer) but then the bats go silent. In one game against Auburn last weekend, the usually reliable defense had four errors in three innings, including two from Taylor Black, one of the better defensive shortstops in the league, on the same play. Things like that are hard to blame on in-game coaching decisions, if nothing else.

    I don't know what that says. It could say a number of things. Consistency is a problem, but what causes that? Is it coaching? Is it players? Is it dumb luck? That's a lot of dumb luck to be 2-11 in league play.

    As of right now, I think Henderson will be back — his contract runs through June 30, 2013 although the buyout isn't too big as to make him invincible — but if things keep getting worse this season, that's different.

    James, I was at that Auburn game where we committed 4 errors in 3 innings and the thing that struck me the most was the errors occurred because the team quit. If they have too many more games like that then Henderson is done for.

    UKN533

  • While I never played at the college level I can attest to the weather being a factor. I have literally been on the field taking infield while it was snowing. Playing I believe Estill Co. my Soph. year I was on short and a kid swung, hit the ball and his METAL BAT BROKE at the handle. Now there was probably a crack beforehand, but to see the barrell of a metal bat go flying across the infield was one of the craziest things I have ever seen.

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  • UKN533 said...

    James, I was at that Auburn game where we committed 4 errors in 3 innings and the thing that struck me the most was the errors occurred because the team quit. If they have too many more games like that then Henderson is done for.

    I agree with you — they gave up in that game after the Auburn runner was called safe at first and Henderson came out to argue. They totally folded mentally. For argument's sake, I just don't know how much of that to place on coaching and how much of that to place on the players, especially since most of the shenanigans (the worst play being Black's double-error play at short) happened before the players made it back to the dugout.

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  • TNCatfanforever said...

    I live in Nashville and the weather is about like Lexington. Today 49 cloudy and winds of 30 mph. It does not bother Vandy. They are number 1 in the nation. They made a commitment to baseball. They have a beautiful field and draw big crowds. There is no excuse for the UK baseball team to be playing this poorly.

    Not quite.

    The average Annual temp in Nashville is 69.0

    Lexington it is 64.7

    Avgs for Nashville

    Feb 51.4
    Mar 60.7
    Apr 69.7
    May 77.5

    Avgs for Lexington

    Feb 43.6
    Mar 55.3
    Apr 65.5
    May 74.3

    Those 5 degrees warmer (about) in Nashville could have an impact.
    Look at February. Does practice not start in February? Almost 8 degrees dif. THAT is significant.

    I used to live in Hopkinsville. One thing I always noticed that it was about 5 degrees warmer there than it was in Louisville. I always - for 15 years - felt that diff was significant.

    Someone mention WKU? Bowling Green and Hop'town pretty much have the same Climate.

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  • Weather hasn't stopped UL from winning.

    bigcat65

  • I've only seen one UK game in person over the last couple of years, and suffice to say, it left me with a pretty poor impression. I saw WKU absolutely destroy UK last season in front of over 6,000 fans at Bowling Green's minor leage stadium. If I recall correctly, WKU sent 16 batters to the plate in one inning without UK recording a single out, plating 16 runs that particular inning (and 24 overall). I don't remember the details, but the coaching staff more or less just left the pitcher (or the second pitcher) out there to take the beatdown. I've seen a lot of baseball at many levels, and I've never seen a beat down quite like it. Looked like there were some deeper issues with the team other than just thin pitching. I understand mid-week games are not as important as SEC tilts, but I would expect UK to be more mentally prepared to take on a solid in-state foe in an energized stadium.

    Jeremy Grey

  • You do recall correctly. WKU scored 17 runs in the second inning before UK recorded an out.

    Embarrassing as it was, I think blowing a lead and losing a conference game by one run is worse than losing a midweek game in an unprecedented freak blowout like that.

    The great thing about baseball is the relative unimportance of one game's result in the grand scheme of an entire season. But when you can't recover the next day after blowing a late lead in any number of ways (or being blown out from the first pitch), issues build. That's what has happened.

    It speaks to the mental toughness of the players, if you ask me. That's something I know both John Calipari and Matthew Mitchell work on tirelessly (especially Mitchell), and their results speak for themselves. It may not be totally fair to compare Calipari, Mitchell and Henderson but I think it's appropriate in this instance.

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  • TNCatfanforever said...

    Matt I would not argue that weather is a factor but I also remember that 3 years ago Michigan went to the college World series. I know the best baseball is played in warmer climates but I still can't figure out how Corbin at Vandy has turned them into a national power with limited scholarships and a not so great climate.

    (A) Michigan isn't competing against the best conference in the country, so I wouldn't use them (or any other northern program) as a good example.

    (B) Vandy built that program over years and years, and they've cashed in big-time on being able to attract the elite baseball athlete who is also interested in getting an elite education. A friend of mine covered that program for a few years, and he can tell you that was a huge part of their success. Where UK annually loses a few top recruits to MLB, Vandy is able to keep some of them by showing how valuable the degree is worth there should baseball not pan out.

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  • DACats86 said...

    , I live in Georgia and usually there isn't even that big of a difference between the weather in Lexington and that in Atlanta.

    You are off your rocker. chairshot

    Go look up an average daily temp between the two places, rainfall amounts and -- as noted earlier -- the wind factor in Lexington. There may not be a windier location in this part of the country than this city, and in the spring, that can make things absolutely miserable.

    The local weather tonight noted that this has been the 5th heaviest rainfall spring on record to date.

    When you're trying to recruit and, perhaps more importantly, develop talent, those are HUGE factors for baseball.

    Should they be better than they are? Yes. No debate there. But the weather is no excuse. It's a very real hurdle for the Cats to overcome.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Part of me still wonders if you can have a consistently competitive team at UK in the SEC, given the gawd-awful weather the Cats have to deal with. They've been recruiting well even since Cohen's departure, but can those guys develop to the max when half their season is played when we still are seeing upper-30s temps from time to time? Is it possible that UK just caught lightning in a bottle for a couple years under Cohen?

    Kentucky has the high school talent to compete with anyone. Weather is just an excuse. North Carolina has about the same weather and they have a much stronger program than UK.

    How do you explain UofL doing well?

    It has nothing to do with weather. Weather is a hurdle but so is 100 degree heat.

    I don't expect to ever be a LSU or Florida State or Southern Cal or Cal-Irvine, but I expect us to play good baseball and be competitive.

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