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UK vs UL Offensive Position Comparison (QB, WR, & RB)

  • Comparison of returning players only, in 3 key offensive positions (Quarterback, Tailback, and Wide Receiver). I am only looking at returning players, and only the top 2 returning tailbacks and receivers. I did take into account the level of competition (SEC vs Big East). Understand I am ONLY A FAN, so this is just for fun and nothing else.

    Quarterback:

    UK: Maxwell Smith (6'4", 230lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats:
    Passing: 153 attempts, 84 completions for 819 yards. 4 TDs, 4 INTs
    Rushing: 20 attempts, -109 yards, average of -5.5 per attempt. 0 TD's.

    UL: Teddy Bridgewater (6'3", 207lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats:
    Passing: 296 attempts, 191 completions for 2,129 yards. 14 TDs, 12 INTs
    Rushing: 89 attempts, 66 yards, average 0.7 per attempt. 4 TDs

    NOTES: There is no denying Teddy has more proven experience than Max, as well as more time leading UL's offensive system. Teddy's ability to score with his feet when in the Red Zone (4 rushing TDs) is also something I dont think Max can compete with.

    ADVANTAGE: UL

    Wide Receiver (Top 2 returners per latest depth charts):

    UK: LaRod King (6'4", 210lbs, Senior)
    2011 Stats: 40 receiptions, 598 yards, 15 average per catch, 7 TDs
    Career Stats: 86 catches, 1,218 total yards, 14.2 average per catch, 13 TDs

    UK: E.J. Fields (6'1", 200lbs, Senior)
    2011 Stats: 10 catches, 89 total yards, 8.9 average per catch, 1 TD
    Career Stats: (Only stats are 2011)

    UL: DeVante Parker (6'3", 204lbs, Sophmore)
    2011 Stats: 18 catches, 291 yards, 16.2 average per catch, 6 TDs
    Career Stats: (Only stats are 2011)

    UL: Andrell Smith (6'3", 219lbs, Senior)
    2011 Stats: 11 catches, 207 yards, 18.8 average per catch, 1 TD
    Career Stats: 36 catches, 584 yards, 16.2 average, 4 TDs

    NOTES: LaRod is by far the most experienced and proven receiver in the bunch. Both teams have young players with lots of potential that were not taken into account, but based solely on the top 2 returning receivers on each teams depth charts, receiving is clearly in UK's favor.

    ADVANTAGE: UK

    Running Back: (Top 2 returning backs per latest depth charts): (Assuming Clemons does not play)

    UK: CoShik Williams (5'9", 178lbs, Senior) 2011 Stats:
    Rushing: 118 carries, 486 yards, 4.1 average per carry, 3 TDs
    Career Rushing: 156 carries, 672 yards, 4.3 per carry, 7 TDs
    Receiving: 19 catches, 70 total yards, 3.7 average per catch, 0 TDs
    Career Receiving: 21 catches, 70 yards, 3.3 average per catch, 0 TDs

    UK: Raymond Sanders (5'8", 190lbs, Junior) 2011 Stats:
    Rushing: 40 carries, 155 yards, 3.9 per carry, 0 TDs
    Career Rushing: 108 carries, 409 yards, 3.8 per carry, 3 TDs
    Receiving: 5 catches, 13 yards, 2.6 average per catch, 0 TDs
    Career Receiving: 21 catches, 127 yards, 6.0 per catch, 1 TD

    UL: Dominique Brown (6'2", 226lbs, Junior) 2011 Stats:
    Rushing: 140 Attempts, 533 yards, 3.8 average per carry, 4 TDs
    Career Rushing: 160 carries, 592 yards, 3.0 average per carry, 4TDs
    Receiving: NONE
    Career receiving: NONE

    UL: Jeremy Wright (5'11", 205lbs, Junior)
    Rushing: 73 carries, 334 yards, 4.6 average per carry, 1 TD
    Career Rushing: 132 carries, 661 yards, 5.0 per carry, 5 TDs
    Receiving: 7 catches, 27 yards, 3.9 per catch, 0 TDs
    Career Receiving: 10 catches, 39 yards, 3.9 per catch, 0 TDs

    NOTES: CoShik is clearly the leader in this catagory as a senior with 7 career TDs, and against much tougher SEC defenses. Both teams again have promising young backs, but I would have to give UK the advantage here as well. (If Clemons heals up and ends up playing this will be a much stronger edge to UK)

    ADVANTAGE: UK

    THOUGHTS?

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by Big Sarge on 8/23/2012 at 1:50 PM

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  • Big Sarge said...

    Comparison of returning players only, in 3 key offensive positions (Quarterback, Tailback, and Wide Receiver). I am only looking at returning players, and only the top 2 returning tailbacks and receivers. I did take into account the level of competition (SEC vs Big East). Understand I am ONLY A FAN, so this is just for fun and nothing else.

    Quarterback:

    UK: Maxwell Smith (6'4", 230lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats: Passing: 153 attempts, 84 completions for 819 yards. 4 TDs, 4 INTs Rushing: 20 attempts, -109 yards, average of -5.5 per attempt. 0 TD's.

    UL: Teddy Bridgewater (6'3", 207lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats: Passing: 296 attempts, 191 completions for 2,129 yards. 14 TDs, 12 INTs Rushing: 89 attempts, 66 yards, average 0.7 per attempt. 4 TDs

    NOTES: There is no denying Teddy has more proven experience than Max, as well as more time leading UL's offensive system. Teddy's ability to score with his feet when in the Red Zone (4 rushing TDs) is also something I dont think Max can compete with.

    ADVANTAGE: UL

    Wide Receiver (Top 2 returners per latest depth charts):

    UK: LaRod King (6'4", 210lbs, Senior) 2011 Stats: 40 receiptions, 598 yards, 15 average per catch, 7 TDs Career Stats: 86 catches, 1,218 total yards, 14.2 average per catch, 13 TDs

    UK: E.J. Fields (6'1", 200lbs, Senior) 2011 Stats: 10 catches, 89 total yards, 8.9 average per catch, 1 TD Career Stats: (Only stats are 2011)

    UL: DeVante Parker (6'3", 204lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats: 18 catches, 291 yards, 16.2 average per catch, 6 TDs Career Stats: (Only stats are 2011)

    UL: Michaelee Harris (6'2", 192lbs, Sophmore) 2011 Stats: 37 Catches, 455 yards, 12.3 average per catch, 2 TDs

    NOTES: LaRod is by far the most experienced and proven receiver in the bunch. Both teams have young players with lots of potential that were not taken into account, but based solely on the top 2 returning receivers on each teams depth charts, receiving is clearly in UK's favor.

    ADVANTAGE: UK

    Running Back: (Top 2 returning backs per latest depth charts): (Assuming Clemons does not play)

    UK: CoShik Williams (5'9", 178lbs, Senior) 2011 Stats: Rushing: 118 carries, 486 yards, 4.1 average per carry, 3 TDs Career Rushing: 156 carries, 672 yards, 4.3 per carry, 7 TDs Receiving: 19 catches, 70 total yards, 3.7 average per catch, 0 TDs Career Receiving: 21 catches, 70 yards, 3.3 average per catch, 0 TDs

    UK: Raymond Sanders (5'8", 190lbs, Junior) 2011 Stats: Rushing: 40 carries, 155 yards, 3.9 per carry, 0 TDs Career Rushing: 108 carries, 409 yards, 3.8 per carry, 3 TDs Receiving: 5 catches, 13 yards, 2.6 average per catch, 0 TDs Career Receiving: 21 catches, 127 yards, 6.0 per catch, 1 TD

    UL: Dominique Brown (6'2", 226lbs, Junior) 2011 Stats: Rushing: 140 Attempts, 533 yards, 3.8 average per carry, 4 TDs Career Rushing: 160 carries, 592 yards, 3.0 average per carry, 4TDs Receiving: NONE Career receiving: NONE

    UL: Jeremy Wright (5'11", 205lbs, Junior) Rushing: 73 carries, 334 yards, 4.6 average per carry, 1 TD Career Rushing: 132 carries, 661 yards, 5.0 per carry, 5 TDs Receiving: 7 catches, 27 yards, 3.9 per catch, 0 TDs Career Receiving: 10 catches, 39 yards, 3.9 per catch, 0 TDs

    NOTES: CoShik is clearly the leader in this catagory as a senior with 7 career TDs, and against much tougher SEC defenses. Both teams again have promising young backs, but I would have to give UK the advantage here as well. (If Clemons heals up and ends up playing this will be a much stronger edge to UK)

    ADVANTAGE: UK

    THOUGHTS?

    1. Michalee Harris is out for UL.

    2. If you think Coshik is an advantage over a 6'2 230 and a 6' 205 guys, you are crazy! We must get big time production out of the true freshman if we want to have a chance at winning the rushing advantage.

    Catmando

  • Sorry, didnt know Harris was out, i'll adjust. But as for CoShik, yes I do think he is an advantage. Size doesnt always make the back or the receiver, just ask Locke and Cobb. And I know CoShik isnt in the same class as those two, but he is a very capable back.

    And you are 100% correct when you say we need some of the younger backs (i.e. Mobley) to step up this year. No way we can go without them.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Big Sarge on 8/23/2012 at 1:51 PM

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  • Catmando said...

    1. Michalee Harris is out for UL.

    2. If you think Coshik is an advantage over a 6'2 230 and a 6' 205 guys, you are crazy! We must get big time production out of the true freshman if we want to have a chance at winning the rushing advantage.

    That right Cat, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, E. Smith, Marshal Faulk, etc. are not better than a couple of 6'2 200+ pound running backs. Just b/c you are relatively tall and big doesn't make you a great back.

    usa1000

  • Sarge, I think you left out Eli Rogers as one of UL's top returning receivers. I could be wrong, but I think his stats were much higher than Andrell Smith's.

    JDHLaw11

  • JDHLaw11 said...

    Sarge, I think you left out Eli Rogers as one of UL's top returning receivers. I could be wrong, but I think his stats were much higher than Andrell Smith's.

    They are very comparible, Eli did have more yards last year, but Smith has more career yards and 3 more career TDs.

    UL: Eli Rogers (5'10", 185lbs, Sophmore)
    2011 Stats: 41 catches, 454 yards, 11.1 average per catch, 1 TD)
    Career Stats: (Only stats are 2011)

    UL's returning receivers are all pretty damn green.

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  • Don't think we have a receiver that can hold DeVaunte Parker's jock.

    I see UL advantages across the board, but I still had this premonition.....

    UK28
    UL23

    Twitter: @Br_Boston

    TKE_

  • TKE_ said...

    Don't think we have a receiver that can hold DeVaunte Parker's jock.

    I see UL advantages across the board, but I still had this premonition.....

    UK28 UL23

    Ouch. What are your thoughts about the comparison on Defense?

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  • Catmando said...

    2. If you think Coshik is an advantage over a 6'2 230 and a 6' 205 guys, you are crazy! We must get big time production out of the true freshman if we want to have a chance at winning the rushing advantage.

    c'mon. Coshik ain't gonna be the one tackling Dom Brown. And Mosby & Taylor are #4 and #5 on the depth chart as of now behind Coshik, Sanders, and George.

    JHB4UK

  • The cats pause magazine has a 2 deep Uofl chart that list Devante Parker,Sott Radcliff and Damian Copeland as the 3 starting WR. Andrell Smith,Eli Rogers and Jarrett Davis are listed as the back ups. This comes as a suprise to me because so many of the UofL fans have been singin their praises of Andrell Smith and Eli Rogers.

    Teddy Bridgewaters is listed as the starter and Will Stein the back up at QB and Dominique Brown the starter and Jeremy Wright the back up at RB.

    My opinion is UofL would be in big trouble if Bridgewaters was out of any game for any appreciatable amount of time.

    Cll80

  • TKE_ said...

    Don't think we have a receiver that can hold DeVaunte Parker's jock.

    I see UL advantages across the board, but I still had this premonition.....

    UK28 UL23

    IHMO Parker will be in the NFL. He attacks the ball like a reciever should. That's one of the biggest things that made me smile this fall camp when Coach Joker said Sweat and Legree do the same! biggrin

    footballcat65

  • TKE_ said...

    Don't think we have a receiver that can hold DeVaunte Parker's jock.

    I see UL advantages across the board, but I still had this premonition.....

    UK28 UL23

    Agreed. Parker is going to be a star.

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    Chris Fisher ●

  • I'm not sure where you got these stats from, but I wouldn't trust them if they don't have D. Brown's receiving stats from last season.

    16 for 98 yards (6.1 avg) and 1 TD.

    Hartlage

  • WR = I can't give UK the advantage there.. With Parker UL has a potenital star.

    QB = as of now you can't argue any other way than UL.

    RB = This is pretty even, but we have more depth. Due to that I give us the advantage. I also think both Mobley and Taylor have more talent than any other UL running back, but they will probably not play a lot in the first game.

    Other position comparions

    TE = UK advantage
    OL = UK advantage
    DL = Even (Both are good)
    LB = Even (but UL has some stud FR players). It will be their advantage in the near future
    CB = Slight advantge us just becuase they don't have good CBs. Not because we are any good.
    S = Slight advantage them (H Smith is a really good player). I might have said even if Neolms didn't move to CB.

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    princeuk21

  • Big Sarge said...

    Ouch. What are your thoughts about the comparison on Defense?

    Sarge, I worry I have been brainwashed by all the negative media we are getting, but I got a feeling our boys are going to show up to play whether we win or not is unknown, but I don't think we get blown out.

    Defensively I'd give them the advantage too.

    Twitter: @Br_Boston

    TKE_

  • TKE_ said...

    Sarge, I worry I have been brainwashed by all the negative media we are getting, but I got a feeling our boys are going to show up to play whether we win or not is unknown, but I don't think we get blown out.

    Defensively I'd give them the advantage too.

    The idea that UofL is just going to show up and blow UK off the field is more than a tad misguided IMO.

    UK still has one 4 of the last 5 and with the exception of 08, every game has been very close, even when one team was a solid favorite over the other.

    UofL has an advantage at the skill positions IMO but 1-80 it's pretty even. Gonna be another nail biter I think.

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    Chris Fisher ●

  • Chris Fisher said...

    The idea that UofL is just going to show up and blow UK off the field is more than a tad misguided IMO.

    UK still has one 4 of the last 5 and with the exception of 08, every game has been very close, even when one team was a solid favorite over the other.

    UofL has an advantage at the skill positions IMO but 1-80 it's pretty even. Gonna be another nail biter I think.

    Chris, I would love for someone with much greater football knowledge than I to do a position comparison / breakdown between the two teams. Even if it is just a comparison of the each offense, defense, and special teams as a whole.

    As a fan with probably less than average football knowledge I just don't see a big difference between each team.

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  • JHB4UK said...

    c'mon. Coshik ain't gonna be the one tackling Dom Brown. And Mosby & Taylor are #4 and #5 on the depth chart as of now behind Coshik, Sanders, and George.

    You're right. Bud Dupree 6'4 246 is going to be tackling Dom Brown.

    This post was edited by Chiuk on 8/25/2012 at 7:43 PM

    Chiuk ●

  • princeuk21 said...

    WR = I can't give UK the advantage there.. With Parker UL has a potenital star.

    QB = as of now you can't argue any other way than UL.

    RB = This is pretty even, but we have more depth. Due to that I give us the advantage. I also think both Mobley and Taylor have more talent than any other UL running back, but they will probably not play a lot in the first game.

    Other position comparions

    TE = UK advantage
    OL = UK advantage
    DL = Even (Both are good)
    LB = Even (but UL has some stud FR players). It will be their advantage in the near future
    CB = Slight advantge us just becuase they don't have good CBs. Not because we are any good.
    S = Slight advantage them (H Smith is a really good player). I might have said even if Neolms didn't move to CB.

    Didnt UL lose Heyman and another big time DL to graduation last year?

    Chiuk ●

  • TKE_ said...

    Don't think we have a receiver that can hold DeVaunte Parker's jock.

    I agree Parker really impressed me in last years game and you have to figure being a young player he is going to be much better this year.

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • 1. Parker was huge in last year's game...he'll likely be better and is way better than Larod King
    2. I can't see how UK has RB advantage...if Clemons is not going to play...it ain't going to be an advantage for UK...Besides, UK has Sanders as the backup...and he isn't very good IMO.
    3. The one spot on offense you didn't list was OL...This will be the biggest component for each team besides QB. UK has the advantge up the middle...but is leaky at the tackle spots. UL has bigger problems across the board than UK besides RT

    All in all...UL has the offensive advantage.

    K__TIME ●

  • K__TIME said...

    1. Parker was huge in last year's game...he'll likely be better and is way better than Larod King
    2. I can't see how UK has RB advantage...if Clemons is not going to play...it ain't going to be an advantage for UK...Besides, UK has Sanders as the backup...and he isn't very good IMO.
    3. The one spot on offense you didn't list was OL...This will be the biggest component for each team besides QB. UK has the advantge up the middle...but is leaky at the tackle spots. UL has bigger problems across the board than UK besides RT

    All in all...UL has the offensive advantage.

    I disagree about running back. Sanders played hurt all year and was playing heavy. IMO he will be improved. Coshick us solid as can be too. The game will boil Down to I-line and qb play. Neither team has a huge advantage at wr or running back. Parker is good but they lost their other top 4 receivers. They have as many question marks outside of qb as uk does.

    hoptownukfan

  • K__TIME said...

    The one spot on offense you didn't list was OL...This will be the biggest component for each team besides QB. UK has the advantge up the middle...but is leaky at the tackle spots. UL has bigger problems across the board than UK besides RT

    True but they do have Benevetis back (out for last year's game) who is one of the better centers in the country

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

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