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UofLdynasty said...
Boy youre really knocking them out of the park tonight. Btw, where is your compliance officer tonight? Oh yeah, shes still hangin out with the NCAA while they investigate yet another paypal recruit. Sandy Bell...the ONLY compliance officer in the world that is a household name.
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bigbluerules said...
Once again show me where UK is in trouble? The ONLY thing that MIGHT happen is Noel is ineligible. Remember he visited ul too. There isn't anything linked to UK or any coaches at UK. BUT I can google Clint Hurtt and find a long investigation that he was one of the main rule breakers.
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UofLdynasty said...
Yeah I wonder why our compliance officer isnt hangin out with them too. I never said Uk was in trouble....yet....Why are you so defensive? I mean, Im sure its completely normal for a teams compliance officer to tag along while the NCAA looks into how travel expenses for a top rated recruit were paid for. KInd of think it's funny that here Peyton Sivas dad was on facebook asking anybody for a ride to New Orleans last season....yet Anthony Davis parents were in the stands every single Uk game. They must be pretty loaded. Strange.
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UofLdynasty said...
Funny you bring up womens volleyball. Your kitties have lost like 8 of the last 10 years to UofL in that sport. It was so bad your AD tried to cancel the series in that sport too. Just like youre going to try and do in football again before Teddy and Co go 4-0. You remember the two baseball games last season when we won both with a ridiculous combined score of like 23-2? That was pretty funny. Wonder if you all will try to cancel that series too?
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Alanin502 said...
Agree. My Cardinal buddy must be itching for a ban LOL. If you take away that part of his comment though he brings up a good point. If you ask any fan who the compliance director is of the team they root for they would have no idea. Sandy Bell rolls off the tongue very easy here because he/she??? is called upon so frequently here that his/her name is always mentioned.
I'm a Louisville fan (duhhh) and I have no idea the name of ours. I'm pretty sure that's the case of most college fans.
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Alanin502 said...
Agree. My Cardinal buddy must be itching for a ban LOL. If you take away that part of his comment though he brings up a good point. If you ask any fan who the compliance director is of the team they root for they would have no idea. Sandy Bell rolls off the tongue very easy here because he/she??? is called upon so frequently here that his/her name is always mentioned.
I'm a Louisville fan (duhhh) and I have no idea the name of ours. I'm pretty sure that's the case of most college fans.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by A_Cat on 8/28/2012 at 12:07 PM
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You should be screaming for your Compliance Directors head. How many of your BB and FB recruits have been ruled ineligible by the NCAA last few years? You can rag on UK all you want, but I'm glad someone is as involved and on top of all things compliance related as Sandy Bell is for UK. If UL had someone as capable, you might have been able to get more of your BB and FB recruits qualified. Why wouldn't you want a person to go to bat for your programs and players against the NCAA?
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Alanin502 said...
Agree. My Cardinal buddy must be itching for a ban LOL. If you take away that part of his comment though he brings up a good point. If you ask any fan who the compliance director is of the team they root for they would have no idea. Sandy Bell rolls off the tongue very easy here because he/she??? is called upon so frequently here that his/her name is always mentioned.
I'm a Louisville fan (duhhh) and I have no idea the name of ours. I'm pretty sure that's the case of most college fans.
This post was edited by rompcat on 8/28/2012 at 5:13 PM
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I think there are several factors resulting in why Sandy Bell happens to be a household name to UK fans. For starters..
1. We are Kentucky. Rather than list all the accolades we have received, I will point out the media coverage, local and national of everything that is Kentucky basketball. Please note that this is not to take away from Louisville, a storied program in its own right. I grew up a Wildcat fan but rejoiced when Louisville beat Duke (Jeff Hall was from near my hometown of Ashland) and who can forget Dr Dunkenstein (in fact, while at the gym for the USN base I work at, a man noticed my UK bag and it turns out he was from Louisville and we had a nice discussion). But, right now, Kentucky is plastered on the news when it comes to NCAA basketball due to its recent success alone. Every scrap of information in the off-season is gobbled up and regurgitated by the journalists.
2. We have been found guilty of wrongdoing on more than one occasion. The results of Eddie Sutton and Mumme years hit the University very hard. Everyone remembers the title "Kentucky's Shame". Past transgressions have made UK the prize target for countless "journalists". Can anyone say Thamel? For instance, I believe Davis received some of the NCAA questioning that they do to all major recruits to keep tabs on things. Journalists went crazy with articles regarding a routine questioning and said nothing when recruits to other schools were questioned (IIRC, a USC or UCLA player?).
3. The administration has made it very clear they wish to not repeat such transactions and have taken public steps to ensure we don't. There are all kinds of crazy rules that the teams have to follow, including limited coverage of football practices and even summer camps for the football team. They place Sandy Bell in the middle to micromanage situations that may adversely affect the program. IIRC, she has even traveled with the BBall team to the SEC tournament. She is a highly visible compliance officer who makes it difficult for boosters and agents to contact players. The institution has taken steps to ensure they do not get hit with a loss of institutional control. They run a very tight ship.
When these things are put together, you have the media scrapping for every bit of information about Kentucky, many journalists looking to make hit pieces or to have the scoop on a problem at Kentucky, and Sandy Bell placed in the middle of every proceeding as a (very deliberately) visible representative of the University.
But, she does more. Although one can ideally hope that the NCAA is impartial and only truly concerned about fairness and working for the student athlete, reality says otherwise. Not only does she represent the interests of the University but she also represent those of the players. She helps them sort out their own agendas with respect to eligibility and qualifications and works to prevent them from being unfairly treated by NCAA. She isn't just a talking head to represent the University with respect to big name players, she puts a lot of work into helping many others clear their hurdles.
I do not see it as some sort of mark against the University that she is a known figure.
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I think there are several factors resulting in why Sandy Bell happens to be a household name to UK fans. For starters..
1. We are Kentucky. Rather than list all the accolades we have received, I will point out the media coverage, local and national of everything that is Kentucky basketball. Please note that this is not to take away from Louisville, a storied program in its own right. I grew up a Wildcat fan but rejoiced when Louisville beat Duke (Jeff Hall was from near my hometown of Ashland) and who can forget Dr Dunkenstein (in fact, while at the gym for the USN base I work at, a man noticed my UK bag and it turns out he was from Louisville and we had a nice discussion). But, right now, Kentucky is plastered on the news when it comes to NCAA basketball due to its recent success alone. Every scrap of information in the off-season is gobbled up and regurgitated by the journalists.
2. We have been found guilty of wrongdoing on more than one occasion. The results of Eddie Sutton and Mumme years hit the University very hard. Everyone remembers the title "Kentucky's Shame". Past transgressions have made UK the prize target for countless "journalists". Can anyone say Thamel? For instance, I believe Davis received some of the NCAA questioning that they do to all major recruits to keep tabs on things. Journalists went crazy with articles regarding a routine questioning and said nothing when recruits to other schools were questioned (IIRC, a USC or UCLA player?).
3. The administration has made it very clear they wish to not repeat such transactions and have taken public steps to ensure we don't. There are all kinds of crazy rules that the teams have to follow, including limited coverage of football practices and even summer camps for the football team. They place Sandy Bell in the middle to micromanage situations that may adversely affect the program. IIRC, she has even traveled with the BBall team to the SEC tournament. She is a highly visible compliance officer who makes it difficult for boosters and agents to contact players. The institution has taken steps to ensure they do not get hit with a loss of institutional control. They run a very tight ship.
When these things are put together, you have the media scrapping for every bit of information about Kentucky, many journalists looking to make hit pieces or to have the scoop on a problem at Kentucky, and Sandy Bell placed in the middle of every proceeding as a (very deliberately) visible representative of the University.
But, she does more. Although one can ideally hope that the NCAA is impartial and only truly concerned about fairness and working for the student athlete, reality says otherwise. Not only does she represent the interests of the University but she also represent those of the players. She helps them sort out their own agendas with respect to eligibility and qualifications and works to prevent them from being unfairly treated by NCAA. She isn't just a talking head to represent the University with respect to big name players, she puts a lot of work into helping many others clear their hurdles.
I do not see it as some sort of mark against the University that she is a known figure.
Nailed it rompcat. Well done.
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I think there are several factors resulting in why Sandy Bell happens to be a household name to UK fans. For starters..
1. We are Kentucky. Rather than list all the accolades we have received, I will point out the media coverage, local and national of everything that is Kentucky basketball. Please note that this is not to take away from Louisville, a storied program in its own right. I grew up a Wildcat fan but rejoiced when Louisville beat Duke (Jeff Hall was from near my hometown of Ashland) and who can forget Dr Dunkenstein (in fact, while at the gym for the USN base I work at, a man noticed my UK bag and it turns out he was from Louisville and we had a nice discussion). But, right now, Kentucky is plastered on the news when it comes to NCAA basketball due to its recent success alone. Every scrap of information in the off-season is gobbled up and regurgitated by the journalists.
2. We have been found guilty of wrongdoing on more than one occasion. The results of Eddie Sutton and Mumme years hit the University very hard. Everyone remembers the title "Kentucky's Shame". Past transgressions have made UK the prize target for countless "journalists". Can anyone say Thamel? For instance, I believe Davis received some of the NCAA questioning that they do to all major recruits to keep tabs on things. Journalists went crazy with articles regarding a routine questioning and said nothing when recruits to other schools were questioned (IIRC, a USC or UCLA player?).
3. The administration has made it very clear they wish to not repeat such transactions and have taken public steps to ensure we don't. There are all kinds of crazy rules that the teams have to follow, including limited coverage of football practices and even summer camps for the football team. They place Sandy Bell in the middle to micromanage situations that may adversely affect the program. IIRC, she has even traveled with the BBall team to the SEC tournament. She is a highly visible compliance officer who makes it difficult for boosters and agents to contact players. The institution has taken steps to ensure they do not get hit with a loss of institutional control. They run a very tight ship.
When these things are put together, you have the media scrapping for every bit of information about Kentucky, many journalists looking to make hit pieces or to have the scoop on a problem at Kentucky, and Sandy Bell placed in the middle of every proceeding as a (very deliberately) visible representative of the University.
But, she does more. Although one can ideally hope that the NCAA is impartial and only truly concerned about fairness and working for the student athlete, reality says otherwise. Not only does she represent the interests of the University but she also represent those of the players. She helps them sort out their own agendas with respect to eligibility and qualifications and works to prevent them from being unfairly treated by NCAA. She isn't just a talking head to represent the University with respect to big name players, she puts a lot of work into helping many others clear their hurdles.
I do not see it as some sort of mark against the University that she is a known figure.
This post was edited by tWhit on 8/29/2012 at 5:28 AM
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