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  • Our offensive line was in shambles with injuries from the last few weeks of camp until probably the Miss State game. Mike Summers has all but said that the 2012 version will be MUCH improved.

    There is no way Louisville is 17 points better than Kentucky. I think Louisville fans are forgetting that in two years under Strong the Cards have started very slow out of the gate before hitting their stride midseason.

    Not saying Kentucky is going to win, but they are very talented across the board although it is young in several areas, just as Louisville was last season. The final outcome of the game will most likely be by a touchdown or less.

    Regardless, Cardinal fans are setting themselves up for failure with these outlandish predictions of blowouts. They game will go down to the fourth qtr

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by SEC Fanatic on 8/20/2012 at 9:47 AM

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  • Catfanin502 said...

    We can play that game all night. Last year UK beat UT, who beat Cincinnati 45-23, who beat U of L 25-16. Does any of that mean anything? Probably not. And the ACC was awful last year, worse than the Big East. Did you see the Orange Bowl game?? Wow.

    No reason for you all not to be excited about your young team, we just think it's funny how big a disparity most UL fans think is between the 2 teams. We have young talent too...it's our Senior class that hurt us a bit. We are loaded at Fr and Soph and the class coming in next year is looking great. I think we'll see a very entertaining game on Sept 2nd.

    And Uk lost to Vandy by 30 points. Cinci beat Vandy by a TD. That mean anything? Prolly not. Vandy also only beat UCONN by 3 points. We destroyed UCONN by 2 TD's. We sure can play that all day. When you look at the players replacing what little we lost, you lose little sleep. We are finally shedding the Kragthorpe players and entering the REAL talent. One things certain, Im very happy you guys feel you have a chance. It's no fun when we destroy you and you expect it.

    UofLdynasty

  • SEC Fanatic said...

    Our offensive line was in shambles with injuries from the last few weeks of camp until probably the Miss State game. Mike Summers has all but said that the 2012 version will be MUCH improved.

    There is no way Louisville is 17 points better than Kentucky. I think Louisville fans are forgetting that in two years under Strong the Cards have started very slow out of the gate before hitting their stride midseason.

    Not saying Kentucky is going to win, but they are very talented across the board although it is young in several areas, just as Louisville was last season. The final outcome of the game will most likely be by a touchdown or less.

    Regardless, Cardinal fans are setting themselves up for failure with these outlandish predictions of blowouts. They game will go down to the fourth qtr

    Ok fair enough. But if we destroy you by 17 or more....then what? Will there be excuses...or will you own up to being dead wrong and just being that inferior? I cant stress enough how huge it was dropping Mike Sanford as OC. It has been said numerous times our playbook was EXTREMELY vanilla due to all the freshmen. I respect the fact that you believe it will be a game...but I also respectfully disagree. We are better at every single position except the kicking game....maybe. Dispute that? Tell me one position you are better in other than kicking and punting.

    UofLdynasty

  • UofLdynasty said...

    Btw, not saying we would beat Alabama, but we heard the EXACT same comments in the 91 Fiesta Bowl.

    Not to burst your bubble (not that I could considering your grandiose delusions) but this ain't your '91 Bama team. Or 1991 SEC.

    We are pointing out the fact that UL's Top 25 ranking is based less on merit and more on projected wins and losses. It has to be. There is no way UL could take KY's SEC schedule this year and do better than 2 or 3 league wins. As a result, if UofL could not possibly be ranked in the top 25. There at least 10 better teams in the SEC than UofL and as good as the SEC is, there aren't 10 top 25 teams.

    In short, you better check that hubris of yours because being the Big East Favorites is akin to being Conference USA's favorite.

    This post was edited by BlueBloodBob on 8/20/2012 at 10:09 AM

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  • UofLdynasty said...

    Ok fair enough. But if we destroy you by 17 or more....then what? Will there be excuses...or will you own up to being dead wrong and just being that inferior? I cant stress enough how huge it was dropping Mike Sanford as OC. It has been said numerous times our playbook was EXTREMELY vanilla due to all the freshmen. I respect the fact that you believe it will be a game...but I also respectfully disagree. We are better at every single position except the kicking game....maybe. Dispute that? Tell me one position you are better in other than kicking and punting.

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  • BlueBloodBob said...

    Not to burst your bubble (not that I could considering your grandiose delusions) but this ain't your '91 Bama team. Or 1991 SEC.

    We are pointing out the fact that UL's Top 25 ranking is based less on merit and more on projected wins and losses. It has to be. There is no way UL could take KY's SEC schedule this year and do better than 2 or 3 league wins. As a result, if UofL could not possibly be ranked in the top 25. There at least 10 better teams in the SEC than UofL and as good as the SEC is, there aren't 10 top 15 teams.

    In short, you better check that hubris of yours because being the Big East Favorites is akin to being Conference USA's favorite.

    That Alabama team lost 3 of their 4 regular season games by an average of 3 points. The also won the National Championship the very next season. Not too shabby a team. 34-7 Cards. Downplay it all you want, they were a great team. Louisville scored more on the third place $EC team than their final 6 $EC games combined. And held them to their second lowest point total of the season. It was over before it started.

    UofLdynasty

  • I also find it absolutely HILARIOUS that a team that built it's entire prestige in a conference that could care less about basketball finds the right to ride on the Big East. All we are doing is what UK has done for 80years now...which is rack up a bunch of wins against average teams. Your opinion that we would only win 2 or 3 league wins is just that. According to preseason rankings, Uk ranks ninth best on our schedule. We rank fifth best on yours. I am counting the seconds to this game. You have no idea.

    UofLdynasty

  • UofLdynasty said...

    That Alabama team lost 3 of their 4 regular season games by an average of 3 points. The also won the National Championship the very next season. Not too shabby a team. 34-7 Cards. Downplay it all you want, they were a great team. Louisville scored more on the third place $EC team than their final 6 $EC games combined. And held them to their second lowest point total of the season. It was over before it started.

    As I pointed out in the first post, I am not sure how something that happened 21 years ago has anything to do with today. But if we are, let's at least get our facts straight.

    + An unranked Alabama was tied for 3rd place in the SEC in 1990 but with a regular season record of 7-4.
    + Alabama did not win the national championship the following year. Miami and Washington split the AP and Coaches national championship respectively.
    + Alabama won it the year after that.

    But let's take your hypothetical and say that this year's Louisville team reflects the one in 1991. You are saying that Louisville could beat the 3rd best SEC team this year? lol

    We're talking one of Georgia, Arkansas, or South Carolina here. No, like I said before, UofL would be lucky to be a top 10 team in the SEC this year.

    No one is downplaying the UofL. We are just being realistic.

    This post was edited by BlueBloodBob on 8/20/2012 at 10:25 AM

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  • SEC Fanatic said...

    Our offensive line was in shambles with injuries from the last few weeks of camp until probably the Miss State game. Mike Summers has all but said that the 2012 version will be MUCH improved.

    There is no way Louisville is 17 points better than Kentucky. I think Louisville fans are forgetting that in two years under Strong the Cards have started very slow out of the gate before hitting their stride midseason.

    Not saying Kentucky is going to win, but they are very talented across the board although it is young in several areas, just as Louisville was last season. The final outcome of the game will most likely be by a touchdown or less.

    Regardless, Cardinal fans are setting themselves up for failure with these outlandish predictions of blowouts. They game will go down to the fourth qtr

    While true, season one was because of a new coach and new system for the players to absorb. Season two, was because we lost almost an entire starting team to graduation and true freshmen starting or getting serious clock time.

    This season is really the first season that the majority of the previous season starters return so I don't expect the slow start like we have seen previously. There were legit reasons for those.

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  • BlueBloodBob said...

    As I pointed out in the first post, I am not sure how something that happened 21 years ago has anything to do with today. But if we are, let's at least get our facts straight.

    + An unranked Alabama was tied for 3rd place in the SEC in 1990 but with a regular season record of 7-4. + Alabama did not win the national championship the following year. Miami and Washington split the AP and Coaches national championship respectively. + Alabama won it the year after that.

    But let's take your hypothetical and say that this year's Louisville team reflects the one in 1991. You are saying that Louisville could beat the 3rd best SEC team this year? lol

    We're talking one of Georgia, Arkansas, or South Carolina here. No, like I said before, UofL would be lucky to be a top 10 team in the SEC this year.

    No one is downplaying the UofL. We are just being realistic.

    Pardon, they finished 11-1 and #5. Georgia, not doubt. very overrated. Kentucky nearly beat them. Arkansas? They will feel the Petrino effect in a big way this season. Mark my words. Petrino was the best offensive mind in college football. Arkansas fans are in for a long season. No we dont beat South Carolina....but the other two strike about as much fear in me as Uk does. Honestly. Just being realistic. I PRAY we get matched up with one of them. I would love nothing other...just to humble some mouths. Just like Uk fans were humbled when they talk about how they would dominate the Big East. Then they go out and get thrashed by the 3rd place Big East team without its head coach on the sidelines in their bowl game a couple years ago. DO you guys ever learn?

    This post was edited by UofLdynasty on 8/20/2012 at 10:39 AM

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  • UofLdynasty said...

    Pardon, they finished 11-1 and #5. Georgia, not doubt. very overrated. Kentucky nearly beat them. Arkansas? They will feel the Petrino effect in a big way this season. Mark my words. Petrino was the best offensive mind in college basketball. Arkansas fans are in for a long season. No we dont beat South Carolina....but the other two strike about as much fear in me as Uk does. Honestly. Just being realistic. I PRAY we get matched up with one of them. I would love nothing other...just to humble some mouths.

    I agree, it would humble quite a few chirping birds. biggrin

    But honestly, I am shocked that you actually think your Cards could beat Georgia or Arkansas. And that you paired that prediction with "just being realistic." There are no words...

    BlueBloodBob

  • UofLdynasty said...

    Pardon, they finished 11-1 and #5. Georgia, not doubt. very overrated. Kentucky nearly beat them. Arkansas? They will feel the Petrino effect in a big way this season. Mark my words. Petrino was the best offensive mind in college basketball. Arkansas fans are in for a long season. No we dont beat South Carolina....but the other two strike about as much fear in me as Uk does. Honestly. Just being realistic. I PRAY we get matched up with one of them. I would love nothing other...just to humble some mouths. Just like Uk fans were humbled when they talk about how they would dominate the Big East. Then they go out and get thrashed by the 3rd place Big East team without its head coach on the sidelines in their bowl game a couple years ago. DO you guys ever learn?

    Please do us all of a favor UofL trolls. Leave.

    These two teams are very similar in talent. UK likely has the advantage on the d-line. UofL has an advantage at Linebacker. Defensive backfields are close. UofL has an advantage at qb, uk an advnatage at RB because of depth. O-lines are close with a slight edge to uofl. Receiver is a wash considering UofL lost 4/5 top receivers from last year.

    The game will boil down to turnovers and qb play.

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    Please do us all of a favor UofL trolls. Leave.

    I am just going to go ahead disagree with this sentiment. I am enjoying the hell out of this thread. Some good ole fashioned trash talk does nothing but whet my appetite for the season to start.

    I have to say, this thread has not divulged into petty name-calling that you would find on other boards.

    This post was edited by BlueBloodBob on 8/20/2012 at 10:46 AM

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  • BlueBloodBob said...

    There is no way UL could take KY's SEC schedule this year and do better than 2 or 3 league wins.

    Based on your schedule that's 11 games (can't play ourselves) this is how Louisville would probably fare:

    Kent State = Win
    WKU = Win
    Florida = ?? Possible win/Possible loss
    USC = Loss
    Miss St = Win
    Arky = Loss
    GA = Loss
    Mizzou = Win
    Vandy = Win
    Samford = Win
    UT = Win

    I see 7 wins with a possible 8th at UF who is down but then it's tough to win at the Swamp.

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  • Alanin502 said...

    Based on your schedule that's 11 games (can't play ourselves) this is how Louisville would probably fare:

    Kent State = Win WKU = Win Florida = ?? Possible win/Possible loss USC = Loss Miss St = Win Arky = Loss GA = Loss Mizzou = Win Vandy = Win Samford = Win UT = Win

    I see 7 wins with a possible 8th at UF who is down but then it's tough to win at the Swamp.

    I'll take a stab at this and let me remind you I stated 2 or 3 LEAGUE wins, so I will focus on that:

    Florida = Loss
    USC = Loss
    Miss St = Win/Loss
    Arky = Loss
    GA = Loss
    Mizzou = Win/Loss
    Vandy = Win
    UT = Win/Loss

    So maybe I didn't give you all enough credit the first time, you all could potentially get 4 wins. And that's me being generous.

    Florida is not a toss up, that team will be very good this year and it is in the swamp.
    Miss St. is exceptionally strong on their lines and would toss UofL around like a ragdoll
    Mizzou actually went 8-5 in a real conference last year
    UT is poorly coached but still has much more talent than UofL (UT would have to beat themselves, which certainly isn't out of the question)

    The only sure win is Vandy, a team that lost a bunch of senior talent last year.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BlueBloodBob on 8/20/2012 at 10:55 AM

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  • UofLdynasty said...

    Ok fair enough. But if we destroy you by 17 or more....then what? Will there be excuses...or will you own up to being dead wrong and just being that inferior? I cant stress enough how huge it was dropping Mike Sanford as OC. It has been said numerous times our playbook was EXTREMELY vanilla due to all the freshmen. I respect the fact that you believe it will be a game...but I also respectfully disagree. We are better at every single position except the kicking game....maybe. Dispute that? Tell me one position you are better in other than kicking and punting.

    How do you know you are better at every single position? Neither team has played a game this season to back that statement.

    The real question is, if Kentucky wins will you own up to being dead wrong?

    SEC Fanatic

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Please do us all of a favor UofL trolls. Leave.

    These two teams are very similar in talent. UK likely has the advantage on the d-line. UofL has an advantage at Linebacker. Defensive backfields are close. UofL has an advantage at qb, uk an advnatage at RB because of depth. O-lines are close with a slight edge to uofl. Receiver is a wash considering UofL lost 4/5 top receivers from last year.

    The game will boil down to turnovers and qb play.

    I cant tell if this is serious or not. Its hard to read sarcasm. If you truly believe what you just typed then Im pretty much done with the conversation because theres no hope. Running back is one of if not THE deepest of our positions...as is WR's. Our D line completely and utterly embarrassed you last year and that was 3 games in with just about all freshmen. Wow. lol I can not WAIT for this game. Some of you are in for a rude awakening. No offense. You mind if I take your quote over to my board to cheer some people up that may be having a bad day?

    This post was edited by UofLdynasty on 8/20/2012 at 11:26 AM

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  • UofLdynasty said...

    I cant tell if this is serious or not. Its hard to read sarcasm. If you truly believe what you just typed then Im pretty much done with the conversation because theres no hope. Running back is one of if not THE deepest of our positions...as is WR's. Our D line completely and utterly embarrassed you last year and that was 3 games in with just about all freshmen. Wow. lol I can not WAIT for this game. Some of you are in for a rude awakening. No offense.

    You are obviously not based in reality. Do us all a favor and leave.

    hoptownukfan

  • I am not so sure Louisville is better than KY at linebacker. They return one starter, as do we in Dupree, and are looking at a true freshman at one LB spot. So based on what are they better?

    This post was edited by SEC Fanatic on 8/20/2012 at 11:33 AM

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  • UofLdynasty said...

    Ok fair enough. But if we destroy you by 17 or more....then what? Will there be excuses...or will you own up to being dead wrong and just being that inferior? I cant stress enough how huge it was dropping Mike Sanford as OC. It has been said numerous times our playbook was EXTREMELY vanilla due to all the freshmen. I respect the fact that you believe it will be a game...but I also respectfully disagree. We are better at every single position except the kicking game....maybe. Dispute that? Tell me one position you are better in other than kicking and punting.

    This debate is like two midgits arguing over who is taller. UK cannot be "that inferior" to UL cause UL average at BEST. If you want to talk about teams being inferior with UL and UK, you need to talk basketball.

    I can name way too many teams that if UL lined up with the game would be a joke.

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  • Alanin502 said...

    Based on your schedule that's 11 games (can't play ourselves) this is how Louisville would probably fare:

    Kent State = Win WKU = Win Florida = ?? Possible win/Possible loss USC = Loss Miss St = Win Arky = Loss GA = Loss Mizzou = Win Vandy = Win Samford = Win UT = Win

    I see 7 wins with a possible 8th at UF who is down but then it's tough to win at the Swamp.

    fail

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  • Big Sarge said...

    Haha, it is not a fail. Anyways, we cannot play this what-if schedule comparison because if we were to play your schedule, we would need to have also enjoyed the benefits of recruiting for several years that you guys get in recruiting and the dollars you receive.

    The fact that we would probably still end up with a 7-4 record or so without said benefits is an important fact to point out. No?

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  • Alanin502 said...

    Haha, it is not a fail. Anyways, we cannot play this what-if schedule comparison because if we were to play your schedule, we would need to have also enjoyed the benefits of recruiting for several years that you guys get in recruiting and the dollars you receive.

    The fact that we would probably still end up with a 7-4 record or so without said benefits is an important fact to point out. No?

    We will never find out how Louisville would fare against a stacked BCS schedule becase no power conference is interested in what they have to offer.

    SEC Fanatic

  • SEC Fanatic said...

    I am not so sure Louisville is better than KY at linebacker. They return one starter, as do we in Dupree, and are looking at a true freshman at one LB spot. So based on what are they better?

    Preston Brown was second in tackles and a junior. OUR freshmen are 4 star Army AA studs. Yours are not. It's not even close. Dupree had 24 tackles last season Brown had 84. Your MOST seasoned LB had 48 tackles last season. Again, some of you are in for a rude awakening. Any and everybody not wearing blue blockers would give UofL the edge in every position but kicking.

    UofLdynasty

  • Alanin502 said...

    Haha, it is not a fail. Anyways, we cannot play this what-if schedule comparison because if we were to play your schedule, we would need to have also enjoyed the benefits of recruiting for several years that you guys get in recruiting and the dollars you receive.

    The fact that we would probably still end up with a 7-4 record or so without said benefits is an important fact to point out. No?

    Try 5-7 or 6-6 at best lil fella. But hey, dreaming is always good.....well until reality sets in at least.

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