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MossCat15 said...
...IMO what you have is the LOD, and then everyone who has vocally disagreed with their extremist opinions and gotten pissed at the frequency and delivery methods/style of their posts have been labeled "sunshine pumpers". In reality, there really is nobody out their pumping any sunshine...
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JHB4UK said...
As I frequently say on this topic: you shouldnt be so concerned about those of us disappointed with the direction of the football program and speak up on what we see....but should be concerned about all the thousands who no longer give a damn about this program, and say nothing at all. And more importantly no longer purchase tickets. The 97% empty Commonwealth Stadium this Saturday evening which will witness this teams spring game reinforces this better than anything I can say. I've heard rumor that nonrenewal of season tickets is at such an alarming rate this offseason that there is serious discussion for going back and lowering prices across the board.
Characterizing so-called LOD segment of fans as being basketball-only is quite amusing. From my perspective those most critical of this program's status and direction do so because they follow college football MORE than the average fan. That is why things like the picture of the "Recruiting Corner" hits home with us, because we KNOW the kinds of facilities that our opponents have and have plans to build. We see us stuck with an ultra-conservative afraid-to-take-risks coaching mentality, while all across college football there are programs being built by exciting point-scoring riverboat gamblers at places like Oregon, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Vandy (!!). We hear the praise heaped on recruiting efforts that (once you leave the basking glows of sunshine pumpers) are universally ranked as bottom of the conference.
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Whitaker568 said...
Like I've proudly stated, SSP4L! And I do feel that if we stay healthy & get better QB play we can win 7 games this season.
UL Kent St WKU MSU Vandy Samford UT
Those 7 are games winnable. The Samford, WKU & Kent St. games should be wins. The rest are very winnable.
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hoptownukfan said...
Drama and mis-truths. Great example of a lod post... Keep em coming. This is fun.
A. Our spring game never has anybody at it. period. Simply too much going on this time of year in Lexington. B. The recruiting "corner" strikes again. One of the silliest arguments in the history of this board. C. I agree with you. Whoever said that the LOD is full of basketball only fans was foolish. you guys are passionate, just incredibly mis-informed or incredibly dis-honest.
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JHB4UK said...
No, the spring game has had some good attended years in the past, to say it has never happened or that the tiny crowd this Saturday is nothing out of the ordinary is display either your ignorance or that you are a liar. When we had great talent and great enthisiasm for the direction of the program there have been good crowds - Tim Couch years, Brooks 1st year was pretty good, the Woodson years. A lot going on in Lexington, really, as compared to every other college town in the Southeast in April?
What is silly again about our recruiting room being a corner of the Nutter Center furnished with folding tables/chairs and a pull-down movie screen that I thought was only used at public schools in the 70's-80's? Silly that is the environment we have to entertain recruits as compaired to the rest of the SEC, and even UL; indeed silly is the right description for that situation.
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If you cared about FACTS you would know that Barnhart had a donor back out at the last minute who was going to pledge a big chunk of the change for the recruiting room. If you CARED about facts you would know that Barnhart wants to do the recruiting room RIGHT and have it be a part of the stadium and not something seperate. -
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JHB4UK said...
Oh, so is that this week's spin on that situation? Previously it was that UK had the money to have it built, but Brooks decided that it should be spent on other things instead. Hard to keep track of all your spear-catching water-carrying as the stories change from day-to-day.
Barnhart wants to do it RIGHT and have it be in the stadium....great, a plan that is impossible to ever be accomplished because the pricetag is $100 million. Why, it is almost as though he set up an objective that he knows can never be reached, thus he isnt responsible for it not ever getting done!
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MossCat15 said...
Yet there was a much larger, even more vocal group calling for him to be fired. I honestly don't think you were part of that group because you actually were indeed a "sunshine pumper" that switched. I'm just saying looking back on it, the situation was just as, if not more bleak and Mitch stuck with his guy. It worked out then, there is no telling if if it will work out now. We are definitely recruiting better players now, and we have a staff that should capitalize on any momentum that is gained on the field. With all due respect to Brooks, his staff sorely missed an opportunity to do so after 2006 and 2007, and it hurt us. This was due to having a staff of comprised of older guys who were excellent coaches, but flat out refused to recruit. The question now is, will the momentum on the field ever come?
I by no means consider myself a "sunshine pumper'" because I don't pump any sunshine, lol. I always have my expectation tempered because I have the ability to see the situation for what it is. I definitely get into the back and forth with some of the LOD members, because a lot of what they say (not what was said in this thread) is ridiculous and some of them are a broken record stuck on repeat putting their trash on threads that do not even contain the subject matter for which they are speaking. This has lead to some back and forth and I have certainly defended Mitch and Joker from the extreme accusations, but in no way do I believe things are in good shape either and whether Joker is right for this job or not could certainly be in question. Most of the back and forth, IMO has more to do with the delivery method of some of the LOD than their view points.
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