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What impact does a 20 year age minimun have on this years draft?

  • kbrew said...

    I would like to see this verified. From what I have read, the 2011 class could be impacted. This would be an NBA collective bargaining agreement, and I would find it odd to have verbiage in it pretaining to the status of an amateur athlete. Could be wrong, but I'd like to know where this is being discussed so I can educate myself further.

    That's a great point. The current CBA is going to be up right? So wouldn't any changes as part of the new CBA begin immediately. Great question KBrew.
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  • Even if a 2 yr college or 20 yr age rule comes about, the issue is NOT just when it takes effect BUT whether or not there is going to be a LOCKOUT. If Knight or Jones hired an agent and left they would have to SIT OUT a year without playing NCAA or NBA ball and receive NO PAY (unless they got a shoe contract OR an agent paid them and they had to pay that money back once they start getting paid). If they come back and play another year they would STILL be drafted high but might also have the thrill of hanging Cal's first ever Championship Banner! I believe BOTH will seriously consider this choice!

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  • jimlowe7 said...

    Even if a 2 yr college or 20 yr age rule comes about, the issue is NOT just when it takes effect BUT whether or not there is going to be a LOCKOUT. If Knight or Jones hired an agent and left they would have to SIT OUT a year without playing NCAA or NBA ball and receive NO PAY (unless they got a shoe contract OR an agent paid them and they had to pay that money back once they start getting paid). If they come back and play another year they would STILL be drafted high but might also have the thrill of hanging Cal's first ever Championship Banner! I believe BOTH will seriously consider this choice!

    We've established that the 2 year rule has no effect on Knight or Jones. The lockout, yes. There are several factors for Knight and Jones to look at. I doubt the lockout would last an entire year. I believe Jones will be back. After Perry Jones deciding to return, it just moves Knight one rung higher in the lotto. I see very little hope in the way of Brandon Knight being at UK next year. Which is fine with me. He's a great kid and I wish him nothing but the best.

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  • I think the NBA should go to a rule similar to baseball. Allow players to be drafted out of high school if they so choose. In turn, the NBA needs to do more to improve the NBDL and make it a true farm system. But, if a player decides to enter college, they stay until their JR year.

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  • I'm not sure why every thinks MLB has it right. There are so many HS kids that never see a pro field, and lose out on an opportunity for a free education. Because of the farm systems in baseball as well as the 631 rounds in their draft, no one talks about it, the fact that literally hundreds of HS kids decide to give up the chance to attend College and yet never see the bigs. IMO, only a handful of KIDS are mature enough for any pro sport. We say it should be up to them but again, we are talking about KIDS who rarely ever get good advice. Too many of these kids have the wrong people in their ears. I guess I could be wrong and just not get it, but I just don't understand why so many people are ok with kids trying to go pro.

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  • tommy said...

    I'm not sure why every thinks MLB has it right. There are so many HS kids that never see a pro field, and lose out on an opportunity for a free education. Because of the farm systems in baseball as well as the 631 rounds in their draft, no one talks about it, the fact that literally hundreds of HS kids decide to give up the chance to attend College and yet never see the bigs. IMO, only a handful of KIDS are mature enough for any pro sport. We say it should be up to them but again, we are talking about KIDS who rarely ever get good advice. Too many of these kids have the wrong people in their ears. I guess I could be wrong and just not get it, but I just don't understand why so many people are ok with kids trying to go pro.

    The farm system in baseball is setup for 18 year olds. If they didn't take high school kids there wouldn't be a need for the huge farm system.

    The other difference is that in baseball you don't declare for the draft. You can get drafted after your senior year of high school, whether you want to or not. You can be drafted after your junior year of college even if you don't want to. You can also go juco for two years and enter the draft at that point.

    The actual nba franchises don't want to get back in the business of scouting high school. I seriously doubt if they allow high school kids to enter the draft again. The franchises don't want it because it's too hard to scout and the current players don't want it, outside of a few, because they view it as "kids" getting their money.

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    The farm system in baseball is setup for 18 year olds. If they didn't take high school kids there wouldn't be a need for the huge farm system.

    The other difference is that in baseball you don't declare for the draft. You can get drafted after your senior year of high school, whether you want to or not. You can be drafted after your junior year of college even if you don't want to. You can also go juco for two years and enter the draft at that point.

    The actual nba franchises don't want to get back in the business of scouting high school. I seriously doubt if they allow high school kids to enter the draft again. The franchises don't want it because it's too hard to scout and the current players don't want it, outside of a few, because they view it as "kids" getting their money.

    I think this is about as good an explanation of the baseball system, as compared to what basketball labors under, as I have read in awhile.

    I like the baseball approach of removing the decision to enter a draft as a high schooler from the player and placing that on the pro teams. In my opinion, that is as it should be. If a NBA team becomes aware of a high school senior who they believe may have what it takes, then draft the kid. This places the risk of being wrong clearly where it belongs, with the pros, not with some high school kid who really can't know these things, and has so many "interested" handlings whispering in his ear.

    Then, if a pro team uses a draft choice to take a HS kid, then the burden of the decision should shift to the kid, and the choice should be do I go pro now, or wait while I attend and play at the college level for X years. I believe that the NCAA should permit any kid placed into that position to obtain professional guidance/counseling, etc. and if the kid decides to NOT go pro at that time, the events have NO impact upon his college eligibility.

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