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Who is the real Joker Philips?

  • edit: watch the language! 2nd warning.

    This post was edited by cobbycobb on 6/14/2012 at 11:34 PM

    jeffries123

  • jeffries123 said...

    All y'all can lick my ass. Every time someone disagree with jokers the great coach crowd there Louisville fans. The south Carolina win was a let down after beating #1 Alabama. Then going on the road. Tennessee was beat down physically and didn't game plan for the spread. All you sunshine pumpers find something I'm lying about. I said in my opinion joker was a bad coach I never belittled UK or the players. Facts are facts. And that my friends is punting on 4th and 2 from the Tennessee 37 in the 4th quarter with under 4 minutes.

    Really? A get down after losing to Bama is why we won....ok.
    Even better....UT was physically beat down...that's the most ignorant asshole UK hating comment I've ever heard. Obviously UK was perfectly healthy as a team heading into that game....just ignorant. UT DID have their starting QB on the field but im sure you were watching your fav team (not UK) so how would you know that. They were beaten down physically....that's hilarious considering we had a walk on at RB and WR who had never played QB in his college career at starting QB.

    Btw, attacks on the staff are also against site rules.

    GO AWAY! Its more that obvious your not here to discuss UK sports but to start shit with actual UK fans.
    At least have the balls and/or dignity to stop posing as a UK fan.

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    tommy ●

  • dvillepro1 said...

    First of all x and o's does not wins games 4 and 5 star players do. Yes right tell that to Boise st. Or K state. BState has had 1 or 2 4star players over the past 7 yrs. Thats it. K state the same.
    The coach and his plays make all the diff. Yes super talent help a ton. But coaching is coaching
    Look at GA top 5 classes every yr or close to it. But horrid coaching.

    Yes, coaching matters without question Dville. Boise, TCU they are the exception. However i would counter with this....how many BSC championships have these schools with 1 4* recruit won? Lets look at the last ALL of the BSC championship teams, what's the common denominator?

    This post was edited by tommy on 6/14/2012 at 11:07 PM

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  • jeffries123 said...

    New club: jdhlaw, Tommy, twhit, cobbycobb, hoptownukfan. The joker nut suckers. You cannot disagree with them or they will jump you faster than they jump jokers balls. Just a fair warning to all.

    Can someone actually step up and get rid of this clown already?

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    tommy ●

  • jeffries123 said...

    All y'all can lick my ass. Every time someone disagree with jokers the great coach crowd there Louisville fans. The south Carolina win was a let down after beating #1 Alabama. Then going on the road. Tennessee was beat down physically and didn't game plan for the spread. All you sunshine pumpers find something I'm lying about. I said in my opinion joker was a bad coach I never belittled UK or the players. Facts are facts. And that my friends is punting on 4th and 2 from the Tennessee 37 in the 4th quarter with under 4 minutes.

    You are hilarious in your ineptitude.

    You made a statement easily disproved with facts, had it disproved repeatedly, made up a narrative that doesn't exist, and now claim to have won because "facts are facts" despite the fact that you haven't asserted a single fact or rational opinion in your three tiresome posts.

    Again, in case you are having a hard time understanding, this is not a thread about Phillips being a great coach. The general consensus is that he has underperformed, with some instances of good coaching amidst poor performances. This is a thread about whether Phillips will have more "good coach" moments in 2012 than in 2011.

    I take it from your lack of reply that I won't see you at the games this fall. What a shame.

    JDHLaw11

  • jeffries123 said...

    New club: jdhlaw, Tommy, twhit, cobbycobb, hoptownukfan. The joker nut suckers. You cannot disagree with them or they will jump you faster than they jump jokers balls. Just a fair warning to all.

    Strangely, you seem to have missed the posts I've made numerous times in this thread and numerous others concerning this year being Phillips' make or break year. Or the posts where I point out examples of Phillips' poor coaching

    I understand that you're confused by all of my rational thought and valid observations. It's clear that those are unfamiliar concepts to you.

    I imagine you're woozy from the beatdown I've given you in this thread. You should take some ibuprofen and lie down for the night.

    JDHLaw11

  • jeffries123 said...

    New club: jdhlaw, Tommy, twhit, cobbycobb, hoptownukfan. The joker nut suckers. You cannot disagree with them or they will jump you faster than they jump jokers balls. Just a fair warning to all.

    tWhit is a member of the we've got Joker for another year why hate on him fan club. Because tWhit is a UK fan.

    tWhit

  • tommy said...

    Can someone actually step up and get rid of this clown already?

    Oh no, leave him here. I want him to continue posting forever.

    JDHLaw11

  • tWhit said...

    tWhit is a member of the we've got Joker for another year why hate on him fan club. Because tWhit is a UK fan.

    Wait a minute tWhit i wanna make sure i got this right...your sayin support the current roster and staff and cheer for them as well as give them full support since they are here and there nothing that bitching, moaning, and insulting them will do about it?

    THAT'S being a fan????

    Hmmm...all this time i was head to believe that insulting either the group of kids (NOT BEING PAID) or the coaching staff, booing my home team and hiding behind a keyboard and username while i act tough to strangers on a mess board was being a fan....

    Interesting

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    tommy ●

  • JDHLaw11 said...

    Oh no, leave him here. I want him to continue posting forever.

    Now that you mention it.....it is kinda fun owning him. LMWAO.

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    tommy ●

  • I am continually reaffirmed as to why I don't go to forums much anymore.

    Jared Bonshire

  • Jared Bonshire said...

    I am continually reaffirmed as to why I don't go to forums much anymore.

    Despite tonight's bloodletting, I still think this forum is pretty rational.

    At the very least, there are enough rational posters to hold a discussion, generally, without being dogpiled by the ignorant and hyperbolic.

    I think jeffries mis-clicked and thought he was entering CI, where his illogical and irrational tripe would be swallowed up without question.

    JDHLaw11

  • tools make it difficult to stomach sometimes but then again, it's fun watching the truly rational fans unload on them sometimes.

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    Stoopified!

    cobbycobb

  • JDH, you are one of the best, and honestly, i did enjoy watching you completely and absolutely own this young person who is posting like....well, someone who doesn't take time to look at anything without irrationality.

    Jared Bonshire

  • UKani said...

    In Joker's first year at UK he took a team that could have won 8 games and won only 6 games with them and went to a bowl game against Pittsburgh, who obviously had more talent than we had, and look quite awful and unprepared. That lack of momentum carried over into last year and was evident the first game of the season against WKU that we weren't going to be a very good football team. All last season we had disappointments and it was highlighted by UK being unprepared in a few games last year.

    After all of that UK then finishes the season with a hard fought game against UGA and then a surprise win against Tennessee where UK had to create a whole new game plan on the fly. Say what you will about Joker and Randy Sanders but to do what they did against Tennessee and come up with a game plan to beat them with a guy who hadn't played QB in college before was one of the best single game coaching jobs in college football last year. The question I have is can that positive momentum carry over into the new season just like that negative momentum did from season to season the year before?

    The Pittsburgh and Vandy games shows us what Joker Philips can be as a head coach (not very good)... But then the UGA and Tennessee game shows us the other spectrum of what kind of head coach Joker Philips can be (a really good). Like it or not when you decided to go with Joker Philips as head coach they signed up to give a head coach On-The-Job-Training... Given a coach only 2 years to go into being a head coach really isn't enough and is one of the reasons why I think you should get on-the-job-training from a lower level and then move up.

    But given that this is what UK has had in a head coach for the past couple of years my question is which head coach do you think Joker really is? The head coach that brings an unprepared team like he did earlier on last season? Or the head coach who brings a prepared team and fights hard and Joker does a great coaching job like he did the last two weeks of last season? Who is the real Joker Philips?

    Well he could probably turn it around and ask the same question, "who are the UK fans?" But you do realize that we lost our starting QB a couple of weeks before the bowl game, right? Hartline was probably playing the best that he had played his whole career so he was a big loss. Have we looked lost sometimes, can't disagree with you on that but the Pitt game had a reason.

    UKlaw82

  • cobbycobb said...

    short of an absolute disastrous 3 win season and multiple blowouts Joker will be back next year. Mitch has shown that he is patient and will give coaches time if they are showing improvement in recruiting and the players support the coach. Also, with the economy being what it is, I doubt they want to pay multiple coaching contracts when there is so many other things they need. Joker will get 4 years, this is the building year that will show if he is retained at the end of NEXT year, imo.

    This is why our baseball team has turned it around. You must give a great recruiter and coach time to get the players he needs to win. It may take more than 2 to 4 yrs but in time and the money he can win here.
    Joker has had a big learning curve yes. He is a great recruiter yes. And he is 100% UK.
    Every coach at UK is dealt a short hand with the in state talent at the high school level.

    dvillepro1

  • dvillepro1 said...

    This is why our baseball team has turned it around. You must give a great recruiter and coach time to get the players he needs to win. It may take more than 2 to 4 yrs but in time and the money he can win here. Joker has had a big learning curve yes. He is a great recruiter yes. And he is 100% UK. Every coach at UK is dealt a short hand with the in state talent at the high school level.

    Thats the reality of the situation. IMO Joker has taken the needed steps to try to improve recruiting by hiring guys that actually recruit and are good at it. It hurts losing Tee Martin but there wasn't much we could do about it. Luckily we've made improvements in other areas that will help to make up for Tee's departure. The fact that the state of Kentucky doesn't produce many SEC quality players has been in the past and will always be a problem. Facilities have been improved but are still behind and I don't see that changing anytime soon to the level of the elite in the SEC. Its about coaching up the players we can get while at the same time improving the quality of players we are getting. I'm hoping those things are getting done as we speak. This year its about competing on the field and getting our young talent some experience. Its about our staff putting guys in a position to succeed on the field. Another problem that will always exist and always has for the most part is the fact that we play a loaded SEC schedule. Once again its about coaching up the players, improving the quality of the players we recruit, and putting those players in a position to succeed on the field. This year will be a good year to evaluate how we're doing in all of those areas which is the job of Mitch Barnhart. If Joker is retained regardless of record Mitch must feel good about where we're at. If you don't think he's looking at those things you are dead wrong. So we'll see how it all shakes out.

    tWhit

  • This thread is hilarious!!

    MossCat15 ●

  • JDHLaw11 said...

    This sentence is structurally confusing, but if I understand it correctly, you're asking why the AD wanted "a continuation" of the Brooks regime. You're asking a question with a false premise. You start with the presumption that naming Phillips HCIW meant that the AD "wanted a continuation of the Brooks regime." Naming a HCIW could have happened for a number of different reasons, and the fact that there was immediate and extensive staff turnover (with very little interference from the AD) would suggest that the Brooks regime was, in fact, over.

    Having continuity doesn't mean a mirror image of the previous staff. It could have (and apparently did) mean that Phillips came recommended by the current HC and that promoting from within would be an easier transition for the players than conducting a coaching search

    You also made a comment about the AD being oblivious (to football recruiting inadequacies) but that's just a stupid question. ADs care about productive sports programs, not recruiting class rankings. Brooks had a good track record with under-recruited players, a strategy that is dangerous because a few misses in a class result in serious deficiencies. I gave him a pass because the results on the field appeared to be improving despite the low regard of the classes. However, holes in recruiting became apparent several years later when some of those lesser regarded recruits didn't pan out.

    I don't know that anyone in 2008 or 2009 knew that the freshman class wouldn't produce in 2011. But it happened, and resulted in a lot of young players seeing the field last year. I'm eagerly awaiting this upcoming season to see whether Phillips will maintain some momentum, eliminate some of what I perceive to be his coaching weaknesses, and motivate young players to perform.

    I can tell that you are super excited as well. Hope I see you at all the home games!

    There were quite a few of us raising red flags about the recruiting classes in brooks'last 2-3 years. That's why I specifIcally mentioned those coaches names. They were doing nothing on the trail.

    In terms of the post you responded to? It doesnt deserve a response.

    hoptownukfan ●

  • jeffries123 said...

    Every time someone disagree with jokers the great coach crowd there Louisville fans. The south Carolina win was a let down after beating #1 Alabama. Then going on the road. Tennessee was beat down physically and didn't game plan for the spread. All you sunshine pumpers find something I'm lying about. I said in my opinion joker was a bad coach I never belittled UK or the players. Facts are facts. And that my friends is punting on 4th and 2 from the Tennessee 37 in the 4th quarter with under 4 minutes.

    edit: watch the language.......

    Well your facts are wrong.

    The 4th and 2 punt came with 14 minutes left.

    Tennessee wasnt beat down too much....Bray played the week before when they beat Vandy.

    WildcatGG24

  • dvillepro1 said...

    First of all x and o's does not wins games 4 and 5 star players do. Yes right tell that to Boise st. Or K state. BState has had 1 or 2 4star players over the past 7 yrs. Thats it. K state the same. The coach and his plays make all the diff. Yes super talent help a ton. But coaching is coaching Look at GA top 5 classes every yr or close to it. But horrid coaching.

    I disagree with you. Give me 5 star players and I could coach a team to a bowl game. Lets give Saban all 1 star players and lets see him win the SEC. Coaching is important but most top coaches will tell you its an easier time with the top joes.

    UKlaw82

  • Never fails... whenever a football thread starts it turns into an instant p!$$ing match.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • _Mike_ said...

    Never fails... whenever a football thread starts it turns into an instant p!$$ing match.

    Its actually been pretty civil as of late Mike, but this clown did not come on here to contribute, discuss, or anything else other than troll and start a bunch of shit.
    He deserves getting crushed and every fan on here should treat him like a doorknob n get a turn.

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    tommy ●

  • I started this thread and forgot about it... I wish I didn't because that jeffries person is just crazy...

    UKani

  • UKani said...

    I started this thread and forgot about it... I wish I didn't because that jeffries person is just crazy...

    It's okay and welcome aboard.

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    Stoopified!

    cobbycobb

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