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tommy said...
Its actually been pretty civil as of late Mike, but this clown did not come on here to contribute, discuss, or anything else other than troll and start a bunch of shit. He deserves getting crushed and every fan on here should treat him like a doorknob n get a turn.
Keep Calm & Stoops On..
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jeffries123 said...
I got crushed? Who knew. All i'm gonna say is that i am a Ky fan, and i just don't think Joker will get it done. There is such a thing as a let down game also. After KY beat LSU and played there tails off against Florida they had an emotional let down against MIss. St. it happens. After South Carolina beat Alabama they went on the road and Lattimore got hurt and I think they emotionally had a let down and that's why KY came back to win. I don't think the facilities are that bad or Mitch. Just think we need a new coach. That's my opinion and if i'm wrong I will admit it when the time comes.
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vhcat1970 said...
"He's only been here 2 years which is not hardly enough time to form a real opinion of his coaching abilities. For Gods sakes this is first head job ever. So lets give him a break and see what he can do this year."
I've got no problem giving him a break now that he's here. The question I have is why did we hire someone who needed breaks because of his inexperience as a HC instead of someone ready to be a HC from day one? MB was ready to throw away 2-3 seasons on us fans? If that's the take, no wonder so many fans are POed.
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todd said...
It's just odd (to everyone I know) that we were making so much noise a few years back but our recruiting really didn't improve until Joker took over and now it seems like he's having to start from scratch... Our WR's were amoung the weakest in the nation in 11, that shouldn't have been the case given all the 07-08 Off's done... Our Off could be a WR's paradise, I don't understand why we haven't been able to go out and land a couple top 30/50 WR's almost every year... What we done with weak classes back in 07-08 should have led to alot more high profile kids. I love Rich Brooks but his final few classes is still killing us. Joker will take the full blame but all the issues aren't his fault, I really wish Brooks would have hired some big time recruiters since we had the momentum back then, no doubt he could have hired some Trooper Taylor or Bedford types... I also think Brooks deserved alittle more support as well... UK's situation can't be placed on just one or two people, several are at fault...
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mjdotson said...
I agree with you on that. We had one of the country's best and most exciting offenses during the Woodson/Little/Tamme/Burton/Johnson/Lyons days, but we immediately filled a class of WR's who never played WR in their pre-college careers (obviously Cobb worked out) and have yet to find a productive TE. We were in on quite a few stud WR's over the last few years, but every damn one of them has chosen to go elsewhere, which is odd to me with Joker being the key recruiter for so long and him being a former WR at UK, then WR coach, then OC/HCIW, then HC. Why no absolute stud (top 50 ranked) WR's have wanted to play in our offense for him is a mystery to me.
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todd said...
Everyone has valid points my question is why couldn't we replace people like Locke, Mathews, Cobb etc??? Everyone knew they would leave sooner or later... Not landing enough legit playmakers and O-lineman since 10 (only 1 O-lineman in the 10 class) is really going to make it tough to win in 12. The 08/09 classes are the back breakers... During the spring when Athlon Sports asked Joker "How do you feel about your O-line depth" he said "Not very good at all"... That says it all. O-line is the hardest place for a true freshman to come in and play yet only a couple will redshirt and a few will be forced into action way to early...
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jeffries123 said...
I got crushed? Who knew. All i'm gonna say is that i am a Ky fan, and i just don't think Joker will get it done. There is such a thing as a let down game also. After KY beat LSU and played there tails off against Florida they had an emotional let down against MIss. St. it happens. After South Carolina beat Alabama they went on the road and Lattimore got hurt and I think they emotionally had a let down and that's why KY came back to win. I don't think the facilities are that bad or Mitch. Just think we need a new coach. That's my opinion and if i'm wrong I will admit it when the time comes.
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hoptownukfan said...
Classic brainless lod post? You still Let this clown post here? You wonder why football discussions are awful on here? POsters like this guy ruin the board
In terms of your argument. Classic lod'er. Something good happens to uk football? No way uk had anything info with it. The oppOnent had a let down. Something had happens?? Must be joker or Mitch's fault.
Leave.
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vhcat1970 said...
"He's only been here 2 years which is not hardly enough time to form a real opinion of his coaching abilities. For Gods sakes this is first head job ever. So lets give him a break and see what he can do this year."
I've got no problem giving him a break now that he's here. The question I have is why did we hire someone who needed breaks because of his inexperience as a HC instead of someone ready to be a HC from day one? MB was ready to throw away 2-3 seasons on us fans? If that's the take, no wonder so many fans are POed.
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Catmando said...
Exactly. It's what I was screaming before he was hired, and one of the many reasons I am so quick to blame Mitch Barnhart. He put Joker into a situation where he was in over his head, either to save money, or because he couldn't make a better hire. I know Brooks recomended Joker and all, but I don't think that is an excuse. It's the AD's job to hire a succesful HC, not Rich Brooks. You just don't hire a guy who's never been a HC of anything to be an SEC HC. I'd be willing to bet this is the first time and SEC school ever did such a thing. (Wold be curious if anyone feels like doing the research.)
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hoptownukfan said...
Awful post. I can name a dozen hires by sec teams who piked worse choices. Hell, Franklin was considered a bad and risky hire at vandy.
A. You can't judge any coach on two years unless there are blatant signs of something being wrong.
B. I couldn't find a person who questioned joker being named coach in waiting when he was named.
C. Had Barnhart allowed joker to leave and take the Oklahoma oc job people like you would have been screaming for Mitch's head. Joker was one of the hottest assistants in the game when he was named hciw.
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Catmando said...
Exactly. It's what I was screaming before he was hired, and one of the many reasons I am so quick to blame Mitch Barnhart. He put Joker into a situation where he was in over his head, either to save money, or because he couldn't make a better hire. I know Brooks recomended Joker and all, but I don't think that is an excuse. It's the AD's job to hire a succesful HC, not Rich Brooks. You just don't hire a guy who's never been a HC of anything to be an SEC HC. I'd be willing to bet this is the first time and SEC school ever did such a thing. (Wold be curious if anyone feels like doing the research.)
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Catmando said...
Exactly. It's what I was screaming before he was hired, and one of the many reasons I am so quick to blame Mitch Barnhart. He put Joker into a situation where he was in over his head, either to save money, or because he couldn't make a better hire. I know Brooks recomended Joker and all, but I don't think that is an excuse. It's the AD's job to hire a succesful HC, not Rich Brooks. You just don't hire a guy who's never been a HC of anything to be an SEC HC. I'd be willing to bet this is the first time and SEC school ever did such a thing. (Wold be curious if anyone feels like doing the research.)
This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 6/16/2012 at 8:08 PM
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