The House of Blue

It's confusing. UofL has the brown endowment that it can borrow against. It's a bizarre setup that is too complicated to describe.

The bigger issue is that UofL has a VERY small amount of bonding in place compared to UK. They haven't built new academic buildings or hospitals like UK has. So in turn, they have been able to go and get bonding capacity from the legislature in bigger chunks and haven't used it all at once.

So much of the bonding capacity hasn't been used the last few years and they haven't had to go through the legislature because they already had the capacity in place before the economy went to the crapper. UK however is tapped out because of the engineering building, the "main building" renovation, the new hospital and new dorms built a few years ago.

It could be argued that UK spends it's bonding on the mission of the university, education. UofL's on athletics. The two campuses when compared speak for themselves. UK has developed into a gorgeous campus while uofl's is deterorating.

Further, the EVERYDAY facilities including practice facilities are actually very comparable. But UofL's stadium is much nicer at this point. Frankly though their seats suck.

UofL's campus is deterorating? I live in Louisville and wonder if you have actually visited Louisville's campus in the past 10 years? There is brand new student housing, restaurants, new student activity center like the Johnson center at UK now being built and new classroom buildings with a new Engineering campus which just broke ground as well. In addition to new athletic facilities for all sports, they are getting ready to build a new soccer stadium and expand their baseball stadium. When it comes to football, they announced and expansion to the Schnellenberger complex at Papa Johns and to replace the turf and all of the seats in the stadium over the next couple of years. Yeah it's really deterorating.

Go back to the uofl board.

I will give you that. UK's central campus is beautiful but UofL has come a long way and is no longer considered a comuter school. We can be proud of both of our State Universities.

Don't pay him any mind, he's always one of the first to bash eventhough you are right they do have better facilities than he's letting on, and that's hard for me to say because I really dislike UofL as well.

UofL's campus has had a major face-lift as of late, hop is right though (just as you agreed, like a grown up) the central campus at UK is very nice. All around UofL has taken some major strides in upgrading their athletic (FB) facilities but they also aren't handicapped in so many ways. I wish I could say UK has made the same commitment to FB that they have. It's really a shame that a SEC school can't have the same things a BIG EAST school has when it comes to FB...

UK has had the benefit of being in the SEC for decades and have always had nice facilties as a result of their conference affiliation an being the states Flagship university. UofL has had to build in most cases from private donations, in the hopes that a better conference situation will finally come. Time will tell if it will all pay off.

As far as being a fan of both as another poster said you can't be, I say nonsense. We are all Kentuckians and a strong UK and UofL does nothing but improve the perception of the state. As my name says FootballFan1st. I enjoy seeing SEC teams playing at Commonwealth and look forward to UofL getting the chance to play other BCS schools whenever possible as well. Should they get the opportunity to move to either the Big 12 or ACC down the road, I think everyone will enjoy seeing the competition level rise win or lose.

Zcats and hoptown nailed it. UL has put a ton of money in their athletics and it's a big risk. Why the do you think it is so important for them to get in the Big 12 or ACC?

I hate saying it too JHB4UK but it's true...

Some of what jb said is but much what he said isn't.

A. Yum corporation gave a big chunk for their b-ball practice facility.

B. 90% + of their football improvements have come from bonds approved before the economic downturn. As I stated earlier, the reason why they are able to do this bonding is because they have neglected the rest of their campus and have dedicated much more $$$ to athletics than academics.

Uk's football practice facilities are as good as louisville's. New doesn't necessarily mean better. While uofl has been building new away from their famous uk made excellent renovations within walking distance of dorms. Louisville's stadium is better. But the reason why is because uofl is doing it on the backs of their students. They don't contribute back to the school.

C. Saying that the classrooms at uk are falling apart is just plain false. The main classroom building or "white hall" has had big time upgrades. The b&e building has undergone a massive upgrade. The older psychology building and journalism buildings have also been updated. Uk also has a less than a decade old brand new engineering building along with an upgraded student center, Johnson center (student workout facility) etc...

In terms of dorms, uk is now on the cutting edge and will have replaced or renovated all dorm rooms in the near future.

I could go on and on. Some of what you said was true, but much was not.

Good one...