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  • PAXCAT said...

    I did read it closely and I am not discounting your opinion that this looks like an SEC team. I also didn't put words in you mouth about getting more wins because of it. Just my opinion about the "how much better we look," statements that really have not translated into success on the field.

    We have heard it every year since about Brooks' third year, that we are "bigger, faster, stronger", so and so has transformed his body, the freshmen class passes the look test. Our own head coach shot expectations through the roof last year with his comments at governor's cup luncheon/golf outing and throughout camp. I am cautiously optimistic about this group and excited to get the season started.

    That's how long it has taken us to get to this point and we have improved "the look" for the most part since Brooks. Life in the SEC. We had a hiccup when 08/09/10 Classes didnt' fully pan out. But we're closer now than we've ever been to having depth at all positions.

    dailyminefield

  • I usually start out every year pray then go to flex after the first few practices. Then after a few games it settle into a coffee mindset. After about the 3rd game of the SEC schedule i turn to panic. Then at the end of the year banghead. Its like a vicious cycle. Heres to hoping you are right! thumbsup

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    Big Sarge

  • mwcats said...

    I agree as well. A lot of solid pieces are in place to be better than expected this year. But next year is when I think we will see it come together.

    The big if, IMO, for this year, is QB play. I know we are young in the secondary and the lb'ers. Our O-line has some question of depth. But I really think they will come together well enough to be formidable. The question is will we have a QB that can win the game? We aren't talented enough and experienced enough yet to afford a QB that won't lose it, we need one to go win it. We have the talent at the position, but when will it click?

    How are we young in the Secondary? If we started today we would start 2 Sr CBs, 1 Sr S, and 1 Soph S. That is pretty old actually.

    usa1000

  • footballcat65 said...

    Pax, I totally understand what you are saying. But this has nothing to do with what the coaches are saying. We or me as (fans) are saying it. It doesn't really mean much. I just think this team has a totally different look than those in the past. That's all.

    Sorry if my post sounded argumentative wasn't the intent. I do happen to agree with you about the looks overall. I went to fan day a came away fairly impressed with most of the guys. Just don't want to get to pumped to be let down later.

    PAXCAT

  • Big Sarge said...

    I usually start out every year then go to after the first few practices. Then after a few games it settle into a mindset. After about the 3rd game of the SEC schedule i turn to . Then at the end of the year . Its like a vicious cycle. Heres to hoping you are right!

    Awesome post -which probably describes about 90% of UK fans.

    PAXCAT

  • I think there is enough talent in the program now that you're not going to see the huge drop-offs from year to year like you've seen in the past. Going to be more consistent IMO.

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    Chris Fisher

  • PAXCAT said...

    Sorry if my post sounded argumentative wasn't the intent. I do happen to agree with you about the looks overall. I went to fan day a came away fairly impressed with most of the guys. Just don't want to get to pumped to be let down later.

    No problem. Lets just hope for a fun and exciting season.cheers

    footballcat65

  • Big Sarge said...

    I usually start out every year pray then go to flex after the first few practices. Then after a few games it settle into a coffee mindset. After about the 3rd game of the SEC schedule i turn to panic. Then at the end of the year banghead. Its like a vicious cycle. Heres to hoping you are right! thumbsup

    Great post Sarg! That pretty much pegs a lot of us.

    footballcat65

  • footballcat65 said...

    Great post Sarg! That pretty much pegs a lot of us.

    Figured some people would relate lol

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  • I thought last year we passed the look test. Not to compete with the big boys in the SEC but to dominate our nonconference schedule and beat the lower and middle of the pack SEC teams. It didn't work out but I still hold out hope for this year. The one negative I see is that we are very young an inexperienced a key position. Plus I believe to be successful this year it must start wit a win September 2. That will be hard to do with so many key players playing thier first live snaps.

    blueboy

  • blueboy said...

    I thought last year we passed the look test. Not to compete with the big boys in the SEC but to dominate our nonconference schedule and beat the lower and middle of the pack SEC teams. It didn't work out but I still hold out hope for this year. The one negative I see is that we are very young an inexperienced a key position. Plus I believe to be successful this year it must start wit a win September 2. That will be hard to do with so many key players playing thier first live snaps.

    That all comes down to "want to". Between injuries, the non-existent WR's corps, and the lack of initiative to start games off the right way by the players, it's no wonder the last two seasons have been the way they've been.
    And Joker blowing smoke up our shorts about how good some players were going to be.
    But that was then, and this is now. Frankly, I like what I'm hearing from the reports I've been seeing so far, and Joker has figured out that he needs to be very careful about what he says, so there is still hope.
    But it all still comes down to the players doing what they've been coached to do at game time. That remains to be seen. And we absolutely, positively have to get off to a good start in the first game, and we need to win that game against Louisville to get this team AND the entire football program moving in the right direction. JMHO.

    This post was edited by suncat05 on 8/10/2012 at 10:58 AM

    suncat05

  • We have had teams that "looked" various ways over the years going into a given season, with varying results.

    The thing I was most disappointed in last year or so was the lack of aggressive physical play. You can look great, but if you aren't physical ... they you're just a pretty player that plays weak. I'd rather have ugly players that smack somebody than that.

    Obviously, we would all prefer players that both look and play the part.

    rbs

  • Big Sarge said...

    I usually start out every year pray then go to flex after the first few practices. Then after a few games it settle into a coffee mindset. After about the 3rd game of the SEC schedule i turn to panic. Then at the end of the year banghead. Its like a vicious cycle. Heres to hoping you are right! thumbsup

    Ha I think this pretty much sums up a lot of people. +1

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  • This is the best SEC loom we have had since the Fran Curci days, but the kids are so young. The future looks bright.

    Oldcarlcat

  • rbs said...

    We have had teams that "looked" various ways over the years going into a given season, with varying results.

    The thing I was most disappointed in last year or so was the lack of aggressive physical play. You can look great, but if you aren't physical ... they you're just a pretty player that plays weak. I'd rather have ugly players that smack somebody than that.

    Obviously, we would all prefer players that both look and play the part.

    Again RBS, I said this is the first time I can say we look like a SEC team. Nothing against past teams. Just my opinion. Don't understand the negative post? Also name a team that looked like this? I can go back 40 years.

    footballcat65

  • suncat05 said...

    The missing link has been the failures of the WR's and all of the injuries on the O-line. If those two components can perform anywhere close to well then we can have a good season.

    Plus sun, don't forget that we had NO punt return or kickoff return yardage to talk about, that hurt that we could not come up with some cheat touchdowns last year.

    UKlaw82

  • Good point also, Law, and correct. ST's is important and needs to help out too.

    suncat05

  • usa1000 said...

    How are we young in the Secondary? If we started today we would start 2 Sr CBs, 1 Sr S, and 1 Soph S. That is pretty old actually.

    True. I suppose young wasn't the correct word; I should've said inexperienced. Neloms and Benton have quite a bit of time under their belt, and Rice as well, although he was a back up last year iirc. Lowery has seen limited time...and beyond that is a very, very young group in the secondary. Simmons, Faulkner, Tyler and Dixon have seen extremely limited time. Toss in 8 frosh on scholly, and it adds up to a lot of inexperience and youth outside of our starters.

    mwcats

  • Rupp@TheBear said...

    This is the best SEC loom we have had since the Fran Curci days, but the kids are so young. The future looks bright.

    loom? huh

    IamRV

  • mrhotdice said...

    Not to rain on the parade but "looks" don't win games. Its just like horse racing, seldom does the best looking horse win the race.

    Until UK has a "proven" QB that can beat teams either with great play calling, great throwing, or running they will have trouble scoring. And with unknown WR's that can catch the ball the season can go either way IMHO. The defense has to play much better especially in the trenches and everyone knows just how young the secondary will be. UK must find a way to rush the passer with such a young secondary.

    The one bright spot appears to be running back but Joker has a history of being very conservative and run a lot of time when many think he needs to pass. Maybe this year he will open up the offense. But again, that is another unknown.

    Just way to many unknown at almost every position.

    Just beat Louisville and start the season on a high for the freshman and then things can happen fast.

    Looks certainly don't win games but are a good indicator of athleticism and strength. We have been physically outmatched every SEC game for the last million years, so it is a positive to have a team that finally is "looking" like all the other teams we play. Also, it must be a form of psychological torture to be on a team that just "looks' physically inferior, especially when we are talking about kids. I guess my point is while it may not win games by itself, it certainly plays a factor, because 99% of the time you don't "look" a certain way without "being" a certain way.

    I agree the season could go either way (from about 4 wins to 7), and all the points I agree with.

    I would add the D-Line as a bright spot. I would also say that you are incorrect as a whole about Joker and his "conservative" play calling. When he has the personnel, not only has he shown the ability to not play conservatively, but has had some of the best offenses in the SEC (WITH inferior talent). Look at 2007 and 2010 for examples. His play calling tends to go the way of his teams strengths (as does every coach in America), but if he has no strengths to work with then......

    I believe the offense will be improved, but how much is still an unknown. Most who have had the ability to view the practices this week have had positive things to say. I think this year consistency may be an issue due to inexperience, but I believe there will be big plays. I would say the same thing about the defense...big plays given up and in our favor as well. IMO we will have a 5 or 6 win team who will be shooting itself in the foot a bit early, but by the end of the year has the potential to be above average (SEC standards) on BOTH sides of the ball. The bad thing is that we are supposedly playing "our most important game of the year" (totally disagree but oh well) in our first game and we have a young team.

    Lastly, we NEED receivers other than King to make plays this year so we go into 2013 with some proven play makers at the position.

    This post was edited by MossCat15 on 8/12/2012 at 4:18 PM

    MossCat15

  • Big Sarge said...

    I usually start out every year pray then go to flex after the first few practices. Then after a few games it settle into a coffee mindset. After about the 3rd game of the SEC schedule i turn to panic. Then at the end of the year banghead. Its like a vicious cycle. Heres to hoping you are right! thumbsup

    LOL

    MossCat15