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Blown Levee

  • Anyone else in western kentucky feel the blast? It sounded like thunder and it shook. Enough to make me stand up and say "son of a...." I just thought it was one of those really close, loud thunder strikes that can shake things sometimes. Found out this morning it was the blowing of the levee.

    BigBlue4Life

  • Where exactly was the blown levee? Rough River?

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • I'm not sure exactly where. Up in Missouri obviously. Far enough away that I was surprised I felt it. It must have been some serious demolition. I know I used to live 40 minutes away from Fort Knox and you'd hear the explosions from exercises from time to time. It was nothing like what I felt last night.

    BigBlue4Life

  • It was called the Birds Point levee. So I guess Birds Point. And it's either the Ohio or Mississippi rivers. Or both.

    BigBlue4Life

  • I think the Ohio River ends in Cairo, Illinois but I could be wrong.

    UBigAl5K

  • There's rivers everywhere down this way. Hard to keep up lol Apparently that was just the first boom. Two more booms to go.

    BigBlue4Life

  • It's on the Missouri side of the Mississippi river. It's across the river from Wickliffe, KY. They blew it to take pressure off the Cairo floodwall that was not going to last much longer. It is supposed to take some pressure off the Ohio river and Paducah also.

    Paducahcat

  • The river has gone down 2 feet already in Cairo and they still have another blast to go. So it's looking like this was a good decision. Better farmland be flooded than people. And these people in that farmland knew this was possible. Some president deemed it an emergency flood basin years ago. I think it was a Roosevelt. I could be mistaken about which President it was but it seems I heard Roosevelt somewhere. Dunno which one.

    BigBlue4Life

  • BigBlue4Life said...

    The river has gone down 2 feet already in Cairo and they still have another blast to go. So it's looking like this was a good decision. Better farmland be flooded than people. And these people in that farmland knew this was possible. Some president deemed it an emergency flood basin years ago. I think it was a Roosevelt. I could be mistaken about which President it was but it seems I heard Roosevelt somewhere. Dunno which one.

    I'm not sure how many homes were saved by this but it's going to flood 130000 acres of pretty good farm land right at planting time. That's several hundred million dollars of crops. Surly it's for more than just Cairo, that place is a ghost town and most of it needs to be demolished. I watched the blast live via a news channels link around 11pm last night. Check youtube out for videos of before and after. Pretty awesome event but then it's easy to say that since it doesn't directly effect me. I can't imagine the mess that going to be left behind for those farmers to clean up. It will take years and years for that ground to recover.

    This post was edited by JohnBlue_ on 5/3/2011 at 9:26 PM

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    First Levee Blast at Birds Point - New Mad...

    First Levee Blast at Birds Point on 5-2-2011

    http://www.youtube.com/v/CfTDBSAp7gU

    JohnBlue_

  • Then they shouldn't have built a farm in a flood basin? I'm sure they have insurance. 3000 people live in Cairo.

    BigBlue4Life

  • No there isn't insurance against loss of farm ground. They most likely will get crop insurance benefits for this season only though. Still that will be at a reduced rate if they don't get it in the ground. You can say the same about the people of Cairo too, they know this can happen just the same. The difference is they can have insurance that will replace their belongings in full. They don't make dirt anymore. Cleaning up all the sand and getting the ground back to what it was could take up to 20 years. Not all the ground will be destroyed, water floods fields all the time and usually all you have are debris to clean up. I'd guess 10% of that ground is going to be a huge mess with the terrain nothing like it was.There are also homes and many building in the flood zone that are being destroyed.

    I'm not trying to say one should suffer over the other but I'm not sure right now which mess would be cheaper/easier to recover from.

    JohnBlue_

  • Farmland > 3,000 individuals (1/8 of a game's attendance at Rupp Arena).

    Seriously? Waste 130,000 acres of farmland because of 3,000 people?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    God, what the flip is wrong with this country. 43 1/3 acres per person.

    UBigAl5K

  • A few people live in that area. A very few. I'll pick human beings over land any time. Those fields will be fine and be ready to farm next year. That land was set aside for this very purpose. I'd consider that a buyer beware situation. Sure I feel for them but I'm sure there is something monetarily already in place to deal with this if it had to happen. People that know a LOT more about the entire scope of this thing looked over it and debated it endlessly I'm sure and decided this was the best course of action. Could be the levee was going to be breeched and flood this land anyway. Just a thought.

    BigBlue4Life

  • Also it's not just 3000 people just standing there lol There are more in the surrounding areas that would be flooded. Plus there are other considerations. All those homes, apartments etc. Businesses. Schools. Roads. Bridges. I gotta think all that being wiped out would cost a heck of a lot more than some farmland. And Cairo is just the most immediate town threatened. What about all those communities downstream this levee breech will save? I'm sure this was a last resort situation and wouldn't have happened unless they felt it was absolutely necessary.

    BigBlue4Life

  • JohnBlue_ said...

    No there isn't insurance against loss of farm ground. They most likely will get crop insurance benefits for this season only though. Still that will be at a reduced rate if they don't get it in the ground. You can say the same about the people of Cairo too, they know this can happen just the same. The difference is they can have insurance that will replace their belongings in full. They don't make dirt anymore. Cleaning up all the sand and getting the ground back to what it was could take up to 20 years. Not all the ground will be destroyed, water floods fields all the time and usually all you have are debris to clean up. I'd guess 10% of that ground is going to be a huge mess with the terrain nothing like it was.There are also homes and many building in the flood zone that are being destroyed.

    I'm not trying to say one should suffer over the other but I'm not sure right now which mess would be cheaper/easier to recover from.

    easy decision...no decision. If they didn't blow the levee, then Hickman floods and it goes all the way down to Union City and Dyersburg. Not to mention parts of Paducah.

    blue mold

  • Yeah. I kinda thought it was an easy decision as well. I understand the farmers in the flood plain not agreeing with the decision but that's about it.

    BigBlue4Life

  • BigBlue4Life said...

    Also it's not just 3000 people just standing there lol There are more in the surrounding areas that would be flooded. Plus there are other considerations. All those homes, apartments etc. Businesses. Schools. Roads. Bridges. I gotta think all that being wiped out would cost a heck of a lot more than some farmland. And Cairo is just the most immediate town threatened. What about all those communities downstream this levee breech will save? I'm sure this was a last resort situation and wouldn't have happened unless they felt it was absolutely necessary.

    +1 BB4L. Bad situation kept from being worse.

    DA23_rox

  • Thanks rox

    BigBlue4Life