The Paddock

Everybody gets sued. It ain't right. Unless common sense prevails, going to the movies might end up like getting on an airplane

All it would have took was one person to be carrying and to have pulled and killed this guy. Unfortunately the law abiding citizens werent the ones with the guns. Take guns away and the only ones who have them are the criminals. Do not support a business if it does not support your ability to carry.

THIS!!!!!!

Gun Control laws wouldn't stop anything. If you wiped every gun off this planet then the dude would have used gasoline and matches, or some kind of bomb.

No this is BS. I could care less about the NRA and still agree with War.

What kind of gun control would have prevented this?

This is what is so curious to me. Frankly, I don't see a need for AR-15's. I don't see a need to be able to buy ak=47's. But in reality. The kid did his damage with a deer rifle. You won't find many people at all who want to see everyday deer rifles banned.

No kind of 24 hour waiting period, gun ban, etc... would have stopped this. he had a clean record, actually went through waiting periods etc.

The only way this doesn't happen is if this kid was never born.

You guys with military experience ought to know more than anybody that this is a maybe, not a certainty. A guy with a pistol going up a guy with a semi-auto in full body armour--the pistol is gonna win what, one in 5 times. Factor in the guy with the pistol is sitting in the dark, surprised, maybe tired, probably had a few drinks by midnight on a Friday, could be with his wife or girlfriend. The scenario is just not that likely.

Yet it will be used to defray the idea that there should be some logical controls on military-grade weapons in the hands of random citizens.

Make it harder for law abiding citizens to have guns and you are simply empowering the criminals and setting up even more people to become victims. It's simply stupidity and ignorance of the left that wants to ban an AR-15 and the like. Show me again where it states in the 2nd Amendment that we have the right to bear arms of less than semi-auto power and the like...

Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You also left out the tear gas the movie-goer would have to deal with. Unless of course he happened to bring a gas mask like the killer did.

Do you really believe that a musket is all that is needed and necessary to provide the security of a free state? Notice the end of the amendment? SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED?

yeah, take away all semi-auto cause the drug lords and criminals will willingly comply with that law too I'm sure... DWS.

Spot on Cobby... as usual.

Carl... you lose again, but thanks for playing the game.

Well not letting the assualt weapon ban lapse could might help. My personal opinion that anything not used for hunting should be confiscated and destroyed. You can have a shotgun with a 3 round max capability. You can have 1 rifle for bigger game with a 3 round max. Anything more than that is just used for killing humans and should be illegal. Possession of anything not stated above should carry a 30 year to life prison sentence. That's my dream and it's a pipe dream because it'll never even come close to happening. In reality land we have to get rid of these large mags, implement a waiting period for ALL guns at ALL locations, applications need to be monitored better, websites selling arms and ammo need to be monitored better, waiting periods for all ammo and also that should be monitored better. Everything I listed so far in reality land would work to try to spot people building arsenals easier and doesn't infringe on a persons 2nd amendment right. And as part of the registration process a person should have to take a gun safety class and a psychological exam.

I disagree with you that nothing could have stopped this guy. If everything I mentioned were law he would have probably failed the psych exam. If he got through that he would have been red flagged with the guns and/or ammo purchases. 6000 rounds of ammo. That would have been noticed if someone was watching.

And you're probably way left of me on this. I have no problem with guns. I got some. I think it'd be fun to shoot an AR-15 and I recognize the right I have to do so.

But that right is not as important as the ability of a six-year old girl to go to the movies in peace.

Gun rights are a political football and supporters, as well as control advocates, are being manipulated to the point where we can't have a logical conversation. There are lots of topics where this happens and I'm sure I get manipulated on some as well--but nobody is as effective as the NRA in drawing and keeping the hard line.

This might be a weird thing, but I came in to work Saturday morning and started reading all this stuff. I've got about 40,000 songs on my MP3 player on shuffle and the second song that came up was Mr. Saturday Night Special. Which leads me to wonder, who am I to argue with the late and great Ronnie Van Zant.

So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me