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Condoleezza Rice ... our next Veep?

  • I think she's an excellent choice... hell, I've always thought she'd make a great POTUS.

    What's your opinion... would she help or hurt Mitt's chances?

    Condoleezza Rice as Romney's running mate would be a 2012 game changer | Fox News

    The biggest move Mitt Romney can make in 2012 to change his image is via an eye-catching pick for the number two slot on the presidential ticket. Condoleezza Rice would be a political game changer for the 2012 race.

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    JawJacker

  • I agree, but from what I've heard she has zero interest in being VPOTUS. And one thing that would hurt a Romney-Rice team would be her time on the Bush team. It wouldn't matter to me, or a lot of others, but her association with the Bush Administration would ultimately be more harmful than helpful to Romney's chances.
    Yes, she would be an excellent choice, but it ain't gonna happen.
    Romney needs an energetic, intelligent, insightful, young, and vicious attack dog with a business background for a VP candidate. That criteria narrows down the field a bunch.

    In my mind, there really is only one strong choice, and that is Marco Rubio.

    suncat05

  • "Condoleezza RICE!!! Sounds like a Mexican dish. Maybe we should cook her up and send her to Mexico so the Mexicans can eat her." Dave Chappelle in the Black-white supremacist.

    This post was edited by Nate87 on 7/14/2012 at 12:38 PM

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  • lmfao 17 of his 21 advisers were Bush advisers. Might as well use her. Just bring back the entire administration that almost brought the country completely down. The most horrible and ineffectual SOS in history. Let's make her a heartbeat away from being President.

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    CarlLexington

  • Condi is a trial balloon being floated to see how big a fit the social conservatives pitch about a pro-choice candidate.

    I'm not sure if she herself helps much. Her views, to the extend they've been expressed, seem to be fairly moderate. Her race probably makes it easier for moderates to vote for the same guy that millions of racists are going to vote for simply because of race.

    But she is so strongly associated with the train wreck of the Bush administration. She was not a hired hand--she's almost part of the family. People aren't going to forget that.

    djkycat54906

  • dj-ky-cat said...

    Condi is a trial balloon being floated to see how big a fit the social conservatives pitch about a pro-choice candidate.

    I'm not sure if she herself helps much. Her views, to the extend they've been expressed, seem to be fairly moderate. Her race probably makes it easier for moderates to vote for the same guy that millions of racists are going to vote for simply because of race.

    But she is so strongly associated with the train wreck of the Bush administration. She was not a hired hand--she's almost part of the family. People aren't going to forget that.

    Rice did not always agree with the Bush gang... there's a reason why Rumsfeld and Cheney had a difficult time getting along with her. That alone is reason enough for many people to respect her. She's tough... she did her job damn well and served honorably. She is well grounded with unwavering beliefs. She's an expert on foreign policy and, personally, I think she would be one of the greatest Prez's America's ever had.

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  • JawJacker said...

    Rice did not always agree with the Bush gang... there's a reason why Rumsfeld and Cheney had a difficult time getting along with her. That alone is reason enough for many people to respect her. She's tough... she did her job damn well and served honorably. She is well grounded with unwavering beliefs. She's an expert on foreign policy and, personally, I think she would be one of the greatest Prez's America's ever had.

    I've gotta admit that while she's a very attractive candidate, I'm not a big Condi fan. If she would have stuck closer to the views of her mentor, Brent Scowcroft, then she'd not have fallen into the neocon hijacking of the Republican party foreign policy (thanks Richard Pearle, Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz). All's you have to do is spend about 1 day in SW Asia/MEast and realize the "democracy" agenda at the heart of the neocon strategy for the region is a fools dream.

    ukaveman

  • JawJacker said...

    Rice did not always agree with the Bush gang... there's a reason why Rumsfeld and Cheney had a difficult time getting along with her. That alone is reason enough for many people to respect her. She's tough... she did her job damn well and served honorably. She is well grounded with unwavering beliefs. She's an expert on foreign policy and, personally, I think she would be one of the greatest Prez's America's ever had.

    I don't know what her unwavering beliefs are. I don't know how we can judge her until we do know.

    I don't disagree that she's a foreign policy expert, which is what Mitt needs, but the biggest legitimate criticism of her is that she's too much of an expert on the wrong foreign policy. She knows as much about Russia and our foreign policy with them as anybody. I don't think she was able to convert that to the middle east very easily and in the next presidential term, the emphasis will need to shift again to the Far East. These aren't really presidential or VP issues, but really that's all we have to go on right now.

    djkycat54906

  • dj-ky-cat said...

    But she is so strongly associated with the train wreck of the Bush administration. People aren't going to forget that.

    Guess who is strongly associated with the train wreck of the Obama Adminstration...Obama. And people arent going to forget that either.

    WildcatGG24

  • WildcatGG24 said...

    Guess who is strongly associated with the train wreck of the Obama Adminstration...Obama. And people arent going to forget that either.

    KABOOM!!!

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  • WildcatGG24 said...

    Guess who is strongly associated with the train wreck of the Obama Adminstration...Obama. And people arent going to forget that either.

    Yeah I guess if you consider a recovering economy, saving detroit, saving us from a depression, lowering gas prices, affordable health care, winning the war on terror, killing bin laden, ending the war in iraq etc a train wreck you would probably vote for an etch-a-sketch. I'm counting on people not forgetting.

    JJ do you put on lipstick and a cheerleading uniform when you post your cheerleading posts that contribute nothing?

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    CarlLexington

  • CarlLexington said...

    Yeah I guess if you consider a recovering economy, saving detroit, saving us from a depression, lowering gas prices, affordable health care, winning the war on terror, killing bin laden, ending the war in iraq etc a train wreck you would probably vote for an etch-a-sketch. I'm counting on people not forgetting.

    JJ do you put on lipstick and a cheerleading uniform when you post your cheerleading posts that contribute nothing?

    There is no way you actually believe what you posted...

    It is pointless to debate/argue with you....many people can acknowledge "their side" has problems, made mistakes etc...but with you Obama shits skittles and rainbows...lowered gas prices? hell 2 months ago I was paying 3.90...gas prices could be a lot lower, but certain policies from your man hold that up.

    Obama didnt kill Bin Laden...he was the sitting pres when our military took him out. Many libs like you were upset at Obama because he kept many Bush policies in place for the war on terror...and btw, when Bush was pres, people like you said the war couldnt be won, much like Vietnam...now Obama is winning it??? no wayyyyy....

    And his healthcare being more affordable to some is going to cause many in the middle to pay for those folks...sorry, nothing is free.

    I hate politics, because it is a pointless battle...there are too many differing views to get anything accomplished anymore and it kind of sucks for America...but it is what it is...hate politics but i know what I believe in

    WildcatGG24

  • WildcatGG24 said...

    There is no way you actually believe what you posted...

    It is pointless to debate/argue with you....many people can acknowledge "their side" has problems, made mistakes etc...but with you Obama shits skittles and rainbows...lowered gas prices? hell 2 months ago I was paying 3.90...gas prices could be a lot lower, but certain policies from your man hold that up.

    Obama didnt kill Bin Laden...he was the sitting pres when our military took him out. Many libs like you were upset at Obama because he kept many Bush policies in place for the war on terror...and btw, when Bush was pres, people like you said the war couldnt be won, much like Vietnam...now Obama is winning it??? no wayyyyy....

    And his healthcare being more affordable to some is going to cause many in the middle to pay for those folks...sorry, nothing is free.

    I hate politics, because it is a pointless battle...there are too many differing views to get anything accomplished anymore and it kind of sucks for America...but it is what it is...hate politics but i know what I believe in

    My point with the gas prices is that if you are going to blame him for high prices then must give credit when they go down. And they've gone down steadily for months now nationally. Truth be told the President has absolutely nothing to do with gas prices, good or bad.

    Obama didn't pull the trigger but he did make the enormously tough call to go in when many of his advisers were screaming in his ear about a safer option. What gets my goat on this issue is the absolute refusal of conservatives to give him any credit at all. Even at the time they refused to give him any credit.

    Your healthcare point is just wrong. The middle class is who it will help. The only people penalized will be those not having insurance and of those only people that make a certain amount of money. Letting the temporary tax cuts for those making 250K or more a year expire is a good start to help pay for a lot of stuff, like the debt.

    We agree on the last part. But there have always been differing views. Things still got done. What we've seen the past 10 years in unprecedented. Both sides are guilty but I think you'd have to blind or biased not to see that most of the blame resides with these new tea baggers and limbaugh conservatives that make up 95% of the republican party and proudly admit they will not compromise.

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  • CarlLexington said...

    My point with the gas prices is that if you are going to blame him for high prices then must give credit when they go down. And they've gone down steadily for months now nationally. Truth be told the President has absolutely nothing to do with gas prices, good or bad.

    Obama didn't pull the trigger but he did make the enormously tough call to go in when many of his advisers were screaming in his ear about a safer option. What gets my goat on this issue is the absolute refusal of conservatives to give him any credit at all. Even at the time they refused to give him any credit.

    Your healthcare point is just wrong. The middle class is who it will help. The only people penalized will be those not having insurance and of those only people that make a certain amount of money. Letting the temporary tax cuts for those making 250K or more a year expire is a good start to help pay for a lot of stuff, like the debt.

    We agree on the last part. But there have always been differing views. Things still got done. What we've seen the past 10 years in unprecedented. Both sides are guilty but I think you'd have to blind or biased not to see that most of the blame resides with these new tea baggers and limbaugh conservatives that make up 95% of the republican party and proudly admit they will not compromise.

    I dont blame one man for this countries wrongs...it has taken many mens mistakes for it to get here...I dont agree with Obama on most things...I disagree that the healthcare will help the middle class...I think in theory they want it to help the lower and middle classes, in reality, it may help the lower class but that is it...we will see, or maybe not who knows.

    And yes, there have always been differing views...but now you have so many groups of people wanting different things, that instead of it being a couple opposing viewpoints its now too much difference to meet in a "middle" of some sorts.

    WildcatGG24

  • Interesting poll

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    JawJacker

  • Yeah. Allen West. Right up there with the craziest of the crazies. He's a great choice. Palin 4th lmao What town is this? Has to be in his district.

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    CarlLexington

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