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Glen Beck and Obama's birth certificate

  • Surprisingly, Beck says you'd have to be a real conspiracy theorist to buy into the birther argument. However, now that the birth certificate has been released, why now? My opinion is it's a distraction. I don't trust our president, and it seems odd he'd release it now. After months of ignoring the questions. What do you think?

    DA23_rox

  • He's embarrassed by how much time so many Americans, including the news media, are spending on it when we have real problems to address. I am too, and I would think the Republicans would feel even worse about it.

    Politically, it would make a great silver bullet during next year's primaries, but I expect it will be just as persuasive for Obama to refute the other looney ideas Trump and others are floating to prove how the other side, or a faction of the other side, doesn't want to talk about the issues.

    djkycat54906

  • DA23_rox said...

    I don't trust our president, and it seems odd he'd release it now. After months of ignoring the questions. What do you think?

    It shouldn't seem odd that he didn't release something he doesn't possess.

    The long form birth certificate has been stored in a secure vault in Hawaii. Their state law does not permit the long form certificate to be released even to the person on it. The president had to have his personal attorney petition the state for a waiver to release the form in order to squelch the nut-case crowd who was covering up the state with idiotic requests to see it.

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • dj-ky-cat said...

    He's embarrassed by how much time so many Americans, including the news media, are spending on it when we have real problems to address. I am too, and I would think the Republicans would feel even worse about it.

    Politically, it would make a great silver bullet during next year's primaries, but I expect it will be just as persuasive for Obama to refute the other looney ideas Trump and others are floating to prove how the other side, or a faction of the other side, doesn't want to talk about the issues.

    I'm not sure who all these Republicans are who kept this issue in the fore front. The media is who kept bringing it up. Most of the conservatives I know, thought there might be a chance Obama wasn't legitimate but there wasn't anything that could be done about it. So why waste time and energy by fighting it. Seriously, though, with this man as president, I don't want Gov't intervention on anything.

    This post was edited by DA23_rox on 4/27/2011 at 3:38 PM

    DA23_rox

  • DA23_rox said...

    I'm not sure who all these Republicans are who kept this issue in the fore front. The media is who kept bringing it up. Most of the conservatives I know, thought there might be a chance Obama wasn't legitimate but there wasn't anything that could be done about it. So why waste time and energy by fighting it. Seriously, though, with this man as president, I don't want Gov't intervention on anything.

    Most politicians couldn't have said what Trump said. A lot of people were unsure about where Obama was born. The one thing that WILL keep popping up is that Obama gave up his U.S. citizenship a LONG time ago. He was a citizen in Indonesia and used an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan to study in 1981. There's more to the story, but it will pop up. Obama would have never released that birth certificate if it was not for Mr. Trump.

    Obama wanted to keep this thing in his pocket until the election got closer, IMO. That is...if it is REAL. woot

    UBigAl5K

  • UBigAl5K said...

    . The one thing that WILL keep popping up is that Obama gave up his U.S. citizenship a LONG time ago. He was a citizen in Indonesia and used an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan to study in 1981. There's more to the story, but it will pop up.

    That's total bull$hit

    He had been residing in Honolulu with his grandparents since 1971. His mother and sister lived in Indonesia and he traveled there in 1981 to visit and then went on to Pakistan and India to visit friends. The total time there was 3 weeks.

    Obama only lived in Indonesia for 4 years as a small child how in the hell would he wind up with an Indonesian passport for gods sake, and why would anyone believe he somehow lost his citizenship?

    good lord, this stuff gets wackier by the hour. liar

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • Deeeefense said...

    That's total bull$hit

    He had been residing in Honolulu with his grandparents since 1971. His mother and sister lived in Indonesia and he traveled there in 1981 to visit and then went on to Pakistan and India to visit friends. The total time there was 3 weeks.

    Obama only lived in Indonesia for 4 years as a small child how in the hell would he wind up with an Indonesian passport for gods sake, and why would anyone believe he somehow lost his citizenship?

    good lord, this stuff gets wackier by the hour.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

    I said it'd be brought up a lot more, not that I vest any time in it.

    Sounds like you have a dog in the fight...surrenderlol

    UBigAl5K

  • Deeeefense said...

    It shouldn't seem odd that he didn't release something he doesn't possess.

    The long form birth certificate has been stored in a secure vault in Hawaii. Their state law does not permit the long form certificate to be released even to the person on it. The president had to have his personal attorney petition the state for a waiver to release the form in order to squelch the nut-case crowd who was covering up the state with idiotic requests to see it.

    Well, if they released the official birth certificate, I'm pretty sure it would show his birth name... Barry (not Barack). I don't think any state can change any original information on a bc... especially the full correct name at birth. From what I have gathered in the past, only his last name is consistant with his bc. I don't remember the middle name, but it started with an "S".

    Barry S. Obama ..... if I am wrong, I will gladly stand corrected.

    At this point though, I'm in agreement with others who say this bc mess is the least of our worries and we should stay focused on more important issues.

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    JawJacker

  • With all the thousands of useless people Obama hired in the government, don't you think that it's plausible that one of them knew how to Photoshop a certificate ?

    Kooky Kats 247

  • UBigAl5K said...

    I said it'd be brought up a lot more, not that I vest any time in it.

    Sounds like you have a dog in the fight...surrenderlol

    You said this:

    "The one thing that WILL keep popping up is that Obama gave up his U.S. citizenship a LONG time ago. He was a citizen in Indonesia and used an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan to study in 1981."

    You didn't say "it's been alleged that. . ." or "it's been rumored that. . . ." you made both of these statements as if they were fact or at least that you are accepting them as fact. Now you are saying you don't "vest any time in it". That sounds like some serious back peddling to me.

    Hopefully you can at least see how silly that sounded.

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • JawJacker said...

    Well, if they released the official birth certificate, I'm pretty sure it would show his birth name... Barry (not Barack). I don't think any state can change any original information on a bc... especially the full correct name at birth. From what I have gathered in the past, only his last name is consistant with his bc. I don't remember the middle name, but it started with an "S".

    Barry S. Obama ..... if I am wrong, I will gladly stand corrected.

    At this point though, I'm in agreement with others who say this bc mess is the least of our worries and we should stay focused on more important issues.

    Well, yes you are wrong. His name is Barack Hussein Obama II same name as his father.
    Barry was a nickname he took in his late teens to try to fit in more but later went back to his real name.

    I certainly agree with your last point

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • Kooky Kats 247 said...

    With all the thousands of useless people Obama hired in the government, don't you think that it's plausible that one of them knew how to Photoshop a certificate ?

    sure but what good would that do, unless you believe Governor Neil Abercrombie and The Hawai‘i State Health Department Directory Loretta Fuddy are felonious liars since both made statements to it's authenticity.

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • Deeeefense said...

    Well, yes you are wrong. His name is Barack Hussein Obama II same name as his father. Barry was a nickname he took in his late teens to try to fit in more but later went back to his real name.

    I certainly agree with your last point

    I would go back and research my source for that information concerning his name, but like I said, there are more important things to worry about at this point. Besides, I personally, think the man is from another damn planet... so for me to argue over his birth place anywhere on earth would be showing a lack of confidence in myself and my opinion. I can't do that. no

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    JawJacker

  • Deeeefense said...

    sure but what good would that do, unless you believe Governor Neil Abercrombie and The Hawai‘i State Health Department Directory Loretta Fuddy are felonious liars since both made statements to it's authenticity.

    .

    ...was joshing there, Woodward & Bernstein. Lighten up.

    But, then again, having to believe that more government officials are felonious liars is not that much of a stretch either.

    They all suck.

    Kooky Kats 247

  • Kooky Kats 247 said...

    ...was joshing there, Woodward & Bernstein. Lighten up.

    But, then again, having to believe that more government officials are felonious liars is not that much of a stretch either.

    They all suck.

    A vote up goes to Kooky!

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    JawJacker

  • IMO, birtherism = racism.

    UKPhilly

  • UKPhilly said...

    IMO, birtherism = racism.

    you suck at math biggrin

    This post was edited by JawJacker on 4/28/2011 at 8:07 AM

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    JawJacker

  • Kooky Kats 247 said...

    ...was joshing there,

    But there are actually nutcases out there today floating that vary idea, so it's getting harder and harder to separate comedy from lunacy. shrug

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • UKPhilly said...

    IMO, birtherism = racism.

    Unbelievable. I really hope you're younger than me (20).

    If not...well.

    You've been watching too much MSNBC.

    UBigAl5K

  • It appears to be much ado about nothing, but I don't know why producing this document was not done two years ago. The silence about it made it appear that there was something to the rumors. I'd like to see the President's representatives answer whatever questions are out there. The silence is deafening.

    wildcatdonf

  • wildcatdonf said...

    It appears to be much ado about nothing, but I don't know why producing this document was not done two years ago. The silence about it made it appear that there was something to the rumors. I'd like to see the President's representatives answer whatever questions are out there. The silence is deafening.

    Don't forget $3,000,000+ in legal fees.

    UBigAl5K

  • UBigAl5K said...

    Unbelievable. I really hope you're younger than me (20).

    If not...well.

    You've been watching too much MSNBC.

    Do you think it's possible to have a similar controversy if the object had been white with a British-derived name?

    If Obama hadn't been elected, we would have elected a guy born in Panama? Was his citizenship ever even discussed?

    Likewise, George Romney (Mitt's daddy) was born to parents who were permanent residents of Mexico, but there was no controversy about his citizenship when he ran for president.

    If you choose to respond, please remember that the constitution does not define what is a "natural born citizen." We have enacted laws to try to clarify, but the lines are not always bright.

    djkycat54906

  • UBigAl5K said...

    Unbelievable. I really hope you're younger than me (20).

    If not...well.

    You've been watching too much MSNBC.

    I'm 68 and THOUGHT I had seen it all.

    UKPhilly

  • UBigAl5K said...

    Don't forget $3,000,000+ in legal fees.

    wrong - The figure that has been bantered around is $2M but that's also wrong. The $2M was his entire personal legal bill for all issues from the 2008 election. Very little of that had anything to with the BC and non of it was used to hide anything.

    The long form BC could not be released by Hawaii state law. The certification of live birth has been published on the internet for over 2 years. The fact that idiots would not accept that as proof when its good enough to get a passport or a federal security clearance, is no fault of the president's. The president actually had to spend his own personal money to get a waiver of the law to secure a copy of release to satisfy the conspiracy theorists.

    Try getting your news from somewhere other than worldnetdaily, you won't be wrong so much.

    This post was edited by Deeeefense on 4/28/2011 at 2:41 PM

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • Trump is a democrat pawn. He ain't no Republican, that's for sure. The media has followed the script and Obama is praised as being above politics. Laughable.

    DA23_rox