The Paddock

What Koolaid?

I said people see what they want to see. I didnt give any opinions on convention vs convention...just said what republicans would say about the Dem convention, because that part was definitely "cluster" worthy.

Not a very good response by you.

I'm going on what I did see which was a complete joke of a convention coming from the republicans. Chris Christie acting like he's the one being nominated, not a mention of Afghanistan, Ann Romney trying to convince people she and Mitt had it really rough, the entire platform being based on a lie, and the now infamous Eastwood and the empty chair routine. By all accounts other than Fox a complete laughfest of a convention.

Those other accounts happen to be left leaning? Sure, they are...Fox right leaning? Sure it is.

They see what they want to see and send the message of what they want people to believe whether it be true or false.

Christie was bad. Anne Romney was genuine. Michelle Obama seemed phony on her delivery to me, but I know some people loved it. Clinton did what he does, and is very popular, ran a little too long but performed good. Obama was underwhelming. Romney did better than his usual speeches, but still underwhelming. Biden was surprisingly better than Obama, his only prob was that a few times he got angry looking. Ryan wasnt memorable, but I bet his "all-american" family helps him (Obama's does as well). Sandra Fluke was a joke...

All in all, they were all FOS and these convention won't have much impact in November. They were pretty forgettable.

Not a bad assessment, but how could you leave out the one who outshined them all... Marco Rubio? He was better than anyone...from either side.

Jaysus.

In the final sentence of his speech, Rubio told voters that he dreamed about the day when there will be more "government over more freedom," with Mitt Romney in office. He clearly meant the opposite, that Republicans want more freedom over more government.

What he really meant is more freedom for the rich and more poverty for the poor. Adore him if you want but he was far from the best speaker of either convention. He wasn't even the best of his disastrous party's convention. Here's a lil diddy on the golden child and it's from Fox "News" which is pretty shocking in and of itself.

And on a completely different note this election is far from over. I know I have talked a lot of smack. I can't resist sticking it to the righties. They deserve it so. But I'm not ready to throw dirt on Romney yet. There's a long way to go and I can't help but seeing Truman holding the "Dewey Wins" headline in my mind's eye. A long way to go.

lmao +1

I'll stand by my opinion that Republicans are the worst star-touchers, but I won't argue over who has the better production values. It's 95% people standing up there and talking--there's only so much you can do.

Traditionally, Republicans have been much stronger in unifying their message. They failed at that this year for the first time that I remember. You've got to blame that on the campaign which is lackluster if not inept. It was their responsibility to make Christie address the message. It was their foul-up to let their bland candidate follow one of the world's biggest stars (Clint). You can blame Hollywood all you want, but this was just bad political fundamentals.

There's a ways to go, but this is shaping up to be a disaster for Republicans, which might not be a bad thing (for them) in the long run. I think it's a revelation that they can nominate a candidate that so little understands how America works and apparently has no respect for anybody south of median income, from which he will likely receive a majority of his votes.

I do not believe this speaks for the majority of Republicans. By and large, they respect the American ideals of advancement. They also, in large numbers, believe that government has some role in fostering that advancement. The question since the New Deal is how much of a role that needs to be. They do not hold grudges against people who need or needed some of that help because most of us either are those people, have had some of those people in our families, or may be even working for such a person.

EJ Dionne had this quote in his column today--it's very nicely stated from Pres. George W. Bush. Although I disagreed with Pres. Bush on many many things, this kind of thing isn't something I ever dreamed any Americans would disagree over:

"Yet this is not who we are as Americans. We have always found our better selves in sympathy and generosity, both in our lives and in our laws. ... Our national character shines in our compassion."

I thought the Republicans were bringing out that big pig that Pink Floyd used to have, but it turned out it was just the governor of New Jersey.

rotfl!!! Nice!! Another +1

Quit assuming so much...I said the uninformed who pay attention for about a week of the year.

I am talking about people who do not know what they are actually voting for...I am not talking about democrats or liberals.

I wouldnt call you or DJ uninformed at all...I dont have to agree with you all, but you keep up with news and politics daily.

It ain't over yet but Romney needs to kick it into another gear if he hopes to have a chance. I'm just amazed at the kid glove treatment der leader has gotten over the last two weeks. Amassador gets killed, make a statement and fly off to Vegas for a fundraiser. Lie about the circumstances for a week and then when the truth gets out, it all gets ignored. For crying out loud, when asked about the total debt he couldn't even answer that (hint idiot it's 16Trillion and climbing). Bottom line is I've never seen a guy get such a pass for his obvious BS and incompetence as this POS. Even Bob Woodward, who in tremendous detail documents the DBag's utter incompetence and failed leadership, and NOBODY gives it creedence. If I didn't know better I'd bet that Obama's real name is Damian Thorne the way people just circle the wagons and protect him!!!

Barring Devine intervention it is over. I tell ya, some people have way too much faith in the American people.

I completely agree about him getting a pass from everybody. Especially when you consider the hammering Ryan is taking about the marathon time. Really? It's upside down.