The Paddock

It wasn't in the middle and end. The first 30 minutes or so was an absolute beatdown. It's just unthinkable to me how Obama let him get away with lie after lie and didn't mention 47% even once.

The 'Great Communicator' lost?

Shocking.

It was pretty decisive. Romney was sharp and Obama inexplicably showed up totally unprepared.

Romney came off ready in what I saw. I didn't think Obama was terrible, but I did think his responses were articulated poorly.

And let's be clear. Romney didn't win on substance. All Romney offered was lies, flip flops, and bullying of the moderator. That's it. But at least that was something. The problem and the reason Romney won is that Obama didn't call him on his lies or fight back at all. 47% should have been mentioned every other sentence. Bain and Romney outsourcing jobs should have been mentioned at least 10 times. Putting sick people in the emergency room as a viable health care plan should have been mentioned every other sentence. Saving the auto industry didn't come up once. Obama should have mentioned it every other sentence.

Romney's biggest problem is that he can't relate to poor people.

Obama's biggest problem is that he can't relate to stupid people. He has a hard time coming up with anything to say when someone says incredulous things, like how Mitt's health care plan was good for a state and not a country, or that Mitt would take credit for Mass. having the best schools in the country, or how he's going to pay for a magical tax cut that is definitely not $5 trillion.

I hope he reads Jerry Seinfeld's letter to the New York Times defending the use of "Really?". All he's gotta do is say that every time Mitt makes one of his unsubstantiated statements.

This board is not a good place to test that assertion.

Carl, bottom line here, your guy got smoked, and bad. He was in no way prepared, and even if he'd had been he still would've gotten smoked because he had no answers. Besides, any time you let John Kerry prep you for a debate of this magnitude you're in trouble!

Loser + Loser does not equal Winner!

he had no answers.......how are you supposed to answer a guy who is lying out his ass at a fast and furious pace.

i guess Obama could have stood up there and said, 'that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie', problem is he would have looked like ish doing it and he would have had to say that at least 20-25 times.

pretty impressive by Mitt considering he talked for about 35 minutes.

the key metric will not be the debate it will be did Mitt improve his favorables at all. if not he has no shot.

Mitt was given a lot of rope last night, took it, and provided Obama with tons of new material for the next round of campaign adds.

those adds will be exactly the same kind that have been killing Romney so far this campaign. self inflicted wounds through contradiction. footage of Mitt saying one thing to one crowd and than saying the opposite to another crowd. plays right into the 47% debacle.

Mitts strategy last night will provide i imagine some short term gain but will ultimately fail long term.

this campaign will be decided on one question: do you or do you not trust Mitt Romney?

"Is our children learning?"

So, I'm thinking you're not a Homer Stokes supporter.

LOL! Just me saying this right here, but as gaffe prone as Biden is, and as intense and logical as Ryan is, I think the VP debate may turn out to be very entertaining.
Now, I realize(and not every conservative will admit this)that Biden is not dumb. I mean, he is but he isn't, but when it comes to politics he's been around a long, long time, so you know he knows how to play the game.
I believe the VP debate will be much better than anyone thinks.
I don't like Biden, never have, but a guy like him doesn't get to spend all that time in that chair in D.C. by being overly dumb. He says lots of stupid stuff, yeah, but in the end you have to view him as the political veteran he is and plan accordingly in how you'd attack his stance.
But don't underestimate Ryan either. That guy is very smart, and he's a political veteran too.
As I stated previously, I believe the VP debate will not only be worth watching, it will be a good debate as well.