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Mitt Romney Wins Debate

  • Some of it will be how it's moderated. Will the moderator allow Biden to attack? Biden is far from dumb. Sometimes he makes a gaffe, a lot of times those "gaffes" are called gaffes when in reality they are politically incorrect truisms. A lot of times they are meant to look like gaffes when they aren't. The chains comment for example. It was hyperbole meant to fire up some of the base and he knew exactly what he was saying and what he was doing. But they called it a gaffe. Ryan is far from dumb as well but his policies are extreme fringe right policy. And the math isn't close to being right. I think this debate will have a lot more fireworks. Biden is meant to be the attack dog to Obama's cool and collected even keeled deal. I'm probably just being partisan but I really feel like Biden is going to make this guy look like a lost school kid. I do think Ryan will have his moments. I don't think Biden will whoop him as bad as Romney whooped Obama but whoop him none the less.

    This post was edited by CarlLexington on 10/5/2012 at 7:36 AM

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  • suncat05 said...

    . I don't like Biden, never have, but a guy like him doesn't get to spend all that time in that chair in D.C. by being overly dumb.

    I do like Biden. I don't know how many people are old enough to have watched his sparring with Robert Bork during the judiciary committee hearings back in the 80s, but there was compelling back and forth with Biden holding his own, and usually winning, against who the conservatives claim as one of their best legal minds.

    The VP debate has the same dynamic as the presidential debates in that they're both a wonk vs. a car salesman. Just in the VP debate, the Democrat is the salesman and the Republican is the wonk. But the Democrat also has a deep knowledge of all aspects of the government. Don't forget that he's the second youngest guy ever elected to the Senate (behind Henry Clay) and he's held some of the most important committee chairmanships. Ryan was also elected very young, but he's not going to get the same breadth of exposure in the house compared to the Senate.

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  • Ryan's other extreme disadvantage is that he's developed a precise and well-drawn view of the role of government and how it should play in the economy. (I disagree with it, but it's a thoughtful plan with little regard for political popularity). But Mitt is moving further from that position every day. How much will Ryan have to censor what he really thinks so as not to besmirch Mitt's attempt to get back to the center?

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  • johnhunt said...

    Is you is, or is you ain't, my constituency?

    Nice! That movie was a funny, funny movie! I really enjoyed it, I think it's an "instant classic", if you will.
    I don't particularly care for George Clooney very much, but his movies are very entertaining. "Oh brother, where art thou" is very good!

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  • dj-ky-cat said...

    Ryan's other extreme disadvantage is that he's developed a precise and well-drawn view of the role of government and how it should play in the economy. (I disagree with it, but it's a thoughtful plan with little regard for political popularity). But Mitt is moving further from that position every day. How much will Ryan have to censor what he really thinks so as not to besmirch Mitt's attempt to get back to the center?

    And when he does watch Biden pounce on the flip flop. You can bet the farm Biden will be calling a spade a spade.

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  • suncat05 said...

    Nice! That movie was a funny, funny movie! I really enjoyed it, I think it's an "instant classic", if you will. I don't particularly care for George Clooney very much, but his movies are very entertaining. "Oh brother, where art thou" is very good!

    The Cohen Brothers have never made a bad movie. Fargo is in my all time top 5.

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  • suncat05 said...

    Nice! That movie was a funny, funny movie! I really enjoyed it, I think it's an "instant classic", if you will. I don't particularly care for George Clooney very much, but his movies are very entertaining. "Oh brother, where art thou" is very good!

    I have a bad habit of avoiding movies which highlight actors with whom I disagree on their political, social or moral views which include clooney, penn, sarandon, allen, moore, et al.

    Clooney in Oh brother, where art thou was an unusual (and enjoyable) exception.

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  • johnhunt said...

    I have a bad habit of avoiding movies which highlight actors with whom I disagree on their political, social or moral views which include clooney, penn, sarandon, allen, moore, et al.

    Clooney in Oh brother, where art thou was an unusual (and enjoyable) exception.

    So basically you don't watch good movies. Oh and it's not that I don't understand. I used to like Mike Rowe. Not anymore. Same with John Elway. But I'll still watch an Eastwood film if he's directing it. I won't be watching this girly crap, trouble with the curve, he has out now though. Not because of his politics but because it had Justine Timberlake in it and Amy Adams pretending to be just an average tomboy is beyond annoying. She's beyond annoying unless she's getting naked.

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  • CarlLexington said...

    So basically you don't watch good movies. Oh and it's not that I don't understand. I used to like Mike Rowe. Not anymore. Same with John Elway. But I'll still watch an Eastwood film if he's directing it. I won't be watching this girly crap, trouble with the curve, he has out now though. Not because of his politics but because it had Justine Timberlake in it and Amy Adams pretending to be just an average tomboy is beyond annoying. She's beyond annoying unless she's getting naked.

    I did preface by stating it was a bad habit - yes I've probably missed some recent "good" movies. I haven't seen anything with Tom Cruise since Rain Man which was an excellent movie.

    I should have been more specific - insert "extreme" in front of political, social and moral views, As a rule I avoid movies by those with an extreme agenda counter to my own, which is not to say I don't make exceptions. I often wish some of these folks would just do what they do best and keep their political/social agenda to themselves.

    I watch films by artists who are democrats and on a rare occasion I will see a Justin Timberlake film - In Time was entertaining.

    johnhunt

  • johnhunt said...

    I watch films by artists who are democrats and on a rare occasion I will see a Justin Timberlake film - In Time was entertaining.

    That movie was only watchable because Amanda Seyfrieds fine arse arse was bouncing her chesticles all over the place in it. If you haven't seen it check out Mystic River. Eastwood directed. Sean Penn won the best actor oscar and Tim Robbins won the best supporting actor for it. Hate their politics all you want but those guys are excellent at their craft and Mystic River has some of the best acting in movie history. When asked if he'd work with Eastwood again Penn replied, "in a heartbeat".

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  • I hijacked my own thread. And now for something completely different. You young ones have probably never seen this. You old ones probably don't watch snl. You middle ones like me will just laugh at the memories. I give you the greatest of all time. Mr Harry Caray intellectually discussing space with an astrophycisist. The writing is spanish. It's in english.

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    Espaço - A Fronteira Infinita

    "Dos lugares mais externos do universo, aos planetas mais internos do nosso sistema solar... Este é 'Espaço - A Fronteira Infinita' com seu apresentador do Chicago Cubs Harry Caray" Versão legendada de "Space - The Infinite Frontier", do Saturday Night Live Harry Caray ... Will Ferrell Dr. Ken Waller ... Jeff Goldblum contraregra ... Mark McKinney http://blogdoastronomo.spaces.live.com

    http://www.youtube.com/v/haAhdtDmsOw
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  • CarlLexington said...

    That movie was only watchable because Amanda Seyfrieds fine arse arse was bouncing her chesticles all over the place in it. If you haven't seen it check out Mystic River. Eastwood directed. Sean Penn won the best actor oscar and Tim Robbins won the best supporting actor for it. Hate their politics all you want but those guys are excellent at their craft and Mystic River has some of the best acting in movie history. When asked if he'd work with Eastwood again Penn replied, "in a heartbeat".

    Carl, you linked the wrong video. Please link the video of Amanda Seyfried bouncing her chesticles all around. TIA.

    stillDA23

  • google her name and "Chloe", turn off safe search.

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  • Turn off safe search, he says. Lmfao! Does any self respecting male have safe search on? Lol

    stillDA23

  • lol And better yet.... just watch Chloe.

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