The Paddock

I couldn't imagine losing a child and how difficult that would be. Prayers sent.

Something very odd about all this. This was a student on unemployment who was able to purchase at least 20,000 dollars worth of gear. Most people in that situation barely have enough money each month to pay for their apt. The dude comes into a theater starts shooting yet somehow is able to be arrested by police and then tells the police that his apartment is booby trapped. Just sounds kinda odd to me. Conspiracy maybe? Of course I'm one of those guys that believes there is some validity to a lot of the stuff Alex Jones and guests of his show talk about.

So many aspects of this tragedy are mind boggling, disgusting, heart breaking, and simply sad.

Who takes a 3 month old baby ANYWHERE at midnight???? Or even a 6 year old for that matter. Note for those who may not know but it appears as if the 3 month old baby will be ok. The same cannot be said about the 6 year old child....heart breaking.

Next, and i may get ripped for this, but what kind if issues did this person have to do such a thing? What happened to drive them to such a terrible act?

And imo and my opinion only, maybe the most disappointing and saddest part of this story is simply 20-30 minutes. 20-30 minutes of terror and murder.
20-30 minutes of hell...yet..no one attempts to stop it.
Now i understand the initial panic and trauma once the shooting began, but after 20 minutes here was no one willing to risk their lives for the sake of others...women and children.

It just seems as tho things like courage, bravery, honor, chivalry and so on are dying in the world we live in today.

Not to mention the tear gas. It was so bad the cops couldn't even get in. The shooter had a gas mask. I would imagine anyone that tried to attack him wouldn't be able to see him. The shooter is a smart guy. I'm sure he used the tear gas for that very purpose. To keep heroes at bay. And no offense Tommy but it's really unfair to judge people in that situation. My guess, and it's pretty much a certainty rather than a guess, is that if you were in the crowd your ass would have been either running for the door or getting on the ground scared shitless like everybody else.

What you call cowardice I call instinctual common sense. Are you sure he was shooting for 20-30 minutes? I gotta think if he was going to town for that long more than 12 would have died. If running from a guy wearing body armor and firing off an AR-15 at me makes me a coward then I guess I'm a coward because I woulda ran like a screaming lil b***ch. Ever see the Seinfeld where there's a kitchen fire and George runs over everyone including women and children getting out of there? I woulda been George.

And as it turns out 3 guys were killed shielding their wives. As usual, and unfortunately Carl is wrong again.

Hop, i don't have a link. I havent read any articles regarding the shootings in CO. Everything that i have posted on was basically from various network coverage on tv. If the reports of the length of time this went down are inaccurate then im more than happy to retract my statements. I've never had an issue with admiting im wrong.

And yeah...what's new about Carl being both wrong and inaccurate. If im wrong its because i formed an opinion based on reports i had seen on tv. Carl simply trolls around looking to argue anything and everything someone else says regardless if he actually knows anything about the topic or not...which often times is very very little....his knowledge of that he's talking about that is.

Well you're wrong about 20-30 minutes of shooting. It didn't happen. Those wounded would have been killed if he had that much time to walk from person to person administering kill shots. Police responded in 90 seconds. So you get all the facts wrong and then have the gaul to talk shit about the victims being cowards and I'm wrong and inaccurate? You take the cake man.

You said that you would have run like a lil bitch... Turns out three men were killed shielding their signifiant others. You bashed saying that isn't what happened.

The only person i called a coward was you. Period.
And I should apologize for calling you a coward...i should have said pathetic coward. I never said anything negative about a single victim, the opposite actually... I have lost a close friend to a senseless shooting that i was witness to. I have personal exp with senseless violence.

I just posted the fact that IF the news coverage was wrong in regards to how long it lasted then i would retract what i said. I also said that IF it was indeed that long that its disappointing IF no one tried to stop this fool from shooting WOMEN and CHILDREN. I don't expect a coward to understand the idea of courage or risking your own life to save others.

You even admitted that you would run for the door as quickly as you could...you would probably knock women and/or children out of your way as well. If...again the word IF it did go on that long and NO ONE attempted to stop that madness then yes its disappointing. But once again...a BOY like you would never understand that.

Because your ignorance offends me and disgusts me like few other people i have ever met. Because your foolish perception of yourself. Because you continue to spew SHIT from your mouth about topics and issues well beyond your comprehension or understanding. Because you think that because you heard someone else discuss something makes you think you know what you are talking about and because of THAT you keep speaking on things or about people that you know nothing about and others do, things that people have endured or suffered through. For example, your "certainty of how i would react if i were ever in that situation....well i have been in that situation. A close friend of mine was shot in the head over NOTHING...shot in the head standing less than two feet from me. A shot that could have easily hit me.
An incident that i tried to defuse while others continued to instigate. So when i say its sad if no one tried to stop this person (if indeed it did last so long which i admitted i only heard on tv and if indeed no one did attempt to stop him) then i say so from very personal experience. Thats why so serious...

But mainly...because your a little boy pretending to exist in a grown up world.

Nothing to apologize for. Some people lives their sheltered lives behind their locked doors and watch the world from afar yet they have the most opinions on how the rest of us should act. Ive had a gun directly pulled on me and I will most certainly say I didnt turn and run only to be shot in the back. To turn and run is a normal reaction for someone who refuses to fight. For someone who would rather die in a corner on his knees.