The Paddock

Are you trying to say they killed Steve Jobs? Is that what the wingnuts mean when they say the "Jobs Killing Healthcare Plan"?

rofl. that's funny right there. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

warmother I think that's an obvious joke. lighten up some.

No, but I see his picture in your link.

I didn't get a chance to watch it but from what I have seen this morning Romney did quite well. Cain was attacked on his 999 as suspected but from his answers given this morning did well in addressing those issues. Gingrich added his quips that he is becoming known for. Perry didn't do a ton and I have a feeling he is slipping further and further from contention. The guy just looks lost on the big stage and personally I don't want a POTUS that's gonna get lost while in talks with a foreign country.

I dont know I only got to watch snipets of it. I will say after watching some news today that Cain didnt do too bad. Several have said it makes the people who are attacking him look bad because they arent offering a whole lot and at least he has a plan.

I agreev100% with that statement from the website. Family used to take care of family. Social security has helped breakdown the family dynamic, imo.

I'd rather depend on family, churches, private organizations, and friends than I would the government.

Looks like project gunrunner is now also project Grenade-walking... oops!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/14/earlyshow/main20120395.shtml

Funny how Holder only found out about the gunrunner operation in May yet Obama knew and said that Holder was adamant about not knowing about it back in March... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/13/obama_spoke_about_fast__furious_before_holder_claimed_he_knew.html

Holder should resign or be fired simply because he is an idiot. SOMEBODY in the Whitehouse had to know about it. It's crossing international boarders and Holder nor Hillary or someone that could make the arrangements informing the Mexican Government knew about this? B.S!

Guys like Anwar Al-Awalaki(sp?) and Samir Khan were traitors. They were American citizens who openly admitted their hatred for the United States of America and actively took up arms against her.
In my mind, we didn't kill them soon enough. These guys should have had a Hellfire missle shoved up their a$$e$ a long time ago.
Of course, in my mind, soon after the attacks of 9-11-2001 happened, the Congress of the United States should have met and declared war on Al Qaeda and the Taliban too. Just because these two entities are not "nation-states", they still represent and present a real and genuine threat to the safety and well being of all Americans. Everywhere.
I still feel that we are not taking this threat as seriously as we should, as a nation, and as Americans. However, because of the malfeasance and ideological disarray with the economy we find ourselves because of this current administration and POTUS, and the idiotic Congress we have too, it will not be addressed as properly as it should be. And to an extent, I agree........... we need to be creating jobs and making our economy vibrant, while we hold these wolves of Al Qaeda and the Taliban at bay until the economy rebounds.
But to get back to my original thought........... Al Awalaki and Khan were murderous traitors that needed to die. Good riddance, and go to hell with the both of those turds!

Your damn hippie baiting is so transparent.

I saw the following list of goals for the Occupy movement. I was actually handed a flyer while in my car. I agree and support all but the first item listed, which sounds good in theory, but there's a lot of background research which would need to be done to fully understand the issue. And I'll acknowledge some of these are unrealistic, but so is 90% of the crap you hear (from both sides) in partisan politics. And I don't need to tell you that NewsBusters is about as unbiased as Michael Moore, who I also dislike. They probably have methodologies that are similar to Moore's. They go around and find as much real examples that support their position as they can, and report it as though they have found a sample representative of the population / country at large.

As you and I have discussed before, W51, I think it's a shame that these issues are getting muddled up by the idiots described in your link. I also would like to point out that a lot of bums & self proclaimed anarchists are showing up for the purposes of causing trouble and partying (I'll post at least one link as a reference after this). The people described in your link are idiots, I don't dispute that. I would like to know what you (and you too, JJ) think about the list below. Let's forget about the people for a moment and just discuss the goals.

* Pass HR1489, reinstating portions of the Glass-Steagall Act [Note: this is what I referenced that I'm not that familiar with]

* Congress must investigate and prosecute the criminals who caused the global financial crisis

* The "Citizens United" Supreme court ruling, which allows corporations to contribute unlimited funds to political campaigns, must be reversed

* Congress must pass the "Buffet Rule" and close coroporate tax loopholes, to make sure the wealthiest individuals and corporations pay their fair share

* Congress must investigate and cease "revolving door" policies at the SEC and throughout our government, to ensure financial regulators pursue offenders, not facilitate them

* Congress must pass specific legislation to restrict the influence of lobbyists, and prevent lobbyist-written legislation from being enacted into law.

* The "personhood" status of corporations must be reversed. The trend towards granting corporations rights presviously reserved for citizens, whiley they suffer none of the responsibility, must end.

Shit, I was baited. But I'm no hippie. Keep the weed, I'm drinking beer. And showering.

*I dont know HR1489 honestly so I dont know.

*I agree their should be an investigation but no need for government to take another 5 years to figure out that they cant figure anything out.

*I dont agree or disagree about campaign contributions. I wouldnt have a problem with revoking corporations from contributing. I can definitely see where its a problem. Noone has any personal integrity any more.

*I will agree about the revolving door.

*Definitely agree with restricting lobbyists.

*I will agree about corporations.

* I accidently skipped the Buffet rule. I will say I disagree with it in this aspect... If they made the money they shouldnt have to pay extra for making money. I grew up turribly poor but I will never expect someone to pay my share. Some of these jokers saying there should be a limit to how much we make is ridiculous. If I was to inherit 164 million dollars would I have to donate 64 million? HAHA yeah right.

I agree with that.