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WildcatGG24 said...
He didnt lose any votes.
“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.”
Only after the negative response Obama camp puts this out:“The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” a senior Obama administration official says.
Romney's comment after the Cairo embassy: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It‘s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks”
You can blame Romeny all you want...but Obama is the leader of the nation and the dumbass statement originally released was unacceptable...fish stinks at the head. Be a leader.
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WildcatGG24 said...
I find the Obama defense pretty disgusting in this case.
The US embassies are part of US government...Obama is in charge...a statement that is released like the one from Cairo is disgusting. It reflects on his leadership.
I guess he can get points for backing away from the statement after the fact...but you are pretty disgusting on this one.
You had no comeback after the facts above were posting in quotations.
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CarlLexington said...
There's nothing to defend. It doesn't reflect on his leadership whatsoever. The statement in question was issued while the walls were being scaled by the people behind that wall. It was done in haste to try to quell the mob. You can't put that on the President no matter who was in office or what political party they belonged to. Anyone that does is a complete piece of shit. Anyone that tries to score political points on this isn't even worth spitting on.
And speaking on his leadership... it killed Bin Laden. It upped drone attacks and has killed more terrorists and REAL enemies than all of Dubya's years combined. It's mended and strengthened our relations that Dubya all but destroyed. Mitt's foreign policy experience consists of a blooper reel tour where he offended our biggest ally. Romney a leader. Are you out of your touchin mind? This guy changes his opinions to whatever will get him elected and always has. He's a pathetic excuse of a human being and this latest attack should put him and all his supporters to shame.
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catcard202 said...
So it's Obama's fault...
Not Sam Bacile: the California filmmaker that ridiculed Islam’s Prophet Muhammad in his anti-Islam hate mongering film that started this whole mess..(He who's in hiding, like the coward he is, and has the gall to blame "poor embassy security" on the deaths - not taking responsibility for his own callousness!)
Not the Cairo embassy for issuing a statement to try to quell the emotions of the many Muslims offended by the ultra right wing Jewish-American's movie (BEFORE the news of what happened/was happening in Lybia was out) ???
Nope...It's all Obama's fault...Got it.
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dj-ky-cat said...
This isn't going to help Carl sleep at night, but McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor pretty much agree with him.
But don't worry WildcatGG24. You've still got Sarah Palin on your side.
Romney is way out of line and extremely anxious to make political points out of a tragedy. That's not to say somebody who works in the state dept. wasn't way out of line as well, but that person was likely under extreme duress at the time. That's not an excuse, but it's surely not an indictment of either Hillary or Obama.
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catcard202 said...
So it's Obama's fault...
Not Sam Bacile: the California filmmaker that ridiculed Islam’s Prophet Muhammad in his anti-Islam hate mongering film that started this whole mess..(He who's in hiding, like the coward he is, and has the gall to blame "poor embassy security" on the deaths - not taking responsibility for his own callousness!)
Not the Cairo embassy for issuing a statement to try to quell the emotions of the many Muslims offended by the ultra right wing Jewish-American's movie (BEFORE the news of what happened/was happening in Lybia was out) ???
Nope...It's all Obama's fault...Got it.
This post was edited by WildcatGG24 on 9/12/2012 at 11:39 AM
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dj-ky-cat said...
This isn't going to help Carl sleep at night, but McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor pretty much agree with him.
But don't worry WildcatGG24. You've still got Sarah Palin on your side.
Romney is way out of line and extremely anxious to make political points out of a tragedy. That's not to say somebody who works in the state dept. wasn't way out of line as well, but that person was likely under extreme duress at the time. That's not an excuse, but it's surely not an indictment of either Hillary or Obama.
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CarlLexington said...
I won't lose sleep over that. I commend them for telling the truth, although I haven't seen or heard their statements. I take your word for it. Were there any "but's" in their statements? I find it hard to believe there wasn't. I mean if they can't even give Obama credit for getting Bin Laden without a few "buts" I'm sure they had to give a few buts on this.
And Wildcat just shut up already. You're either just needling or you're the most disgusting person on this board.
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WildcatGG24 said...
I have attacked the originally released statement by the embassy...i have questioned leadership on this issue because it was handled poorly imo...i posted Romneys quote on the subject...i do believe he came off harsh so it reflects poorly when americans died. Id love to know why i am disgusting though. I have no reason for political gain...this was not obamas fault, but the handling of the situation was poor in my opinion and that does reflect on the president.
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CarlLexington said...
Because what you said there isn't what you were saying before. And no matter what your opinion of the handling after the fact you defended Romney about making this political. And that is disgusting. Disregarding that and going after Obama is disgusting.
And for the record, unlike Romney, the white house doesn't issue blanket statements about something until they know all the facts. At least with this administration. Which is nice when compared to the past administration and a Romney administration. Obama showed much better leadership by waiting to find out wtf was going on before commenting. Romney jumped the gun and immediately tried to score political points while Americans were dying. How does this make Romney a better leader than Obama? Still waiting for you to answer how Romney would be an improvement over Obama on national defense, foreign policy, and leadership.
And you are wrong about Romney not losing votes on this. Talk about wishful thinking. When even the republican leadership condemn what you say you aren't doing well. I'm not as extreme as some think. If I'm this mad about it you can bet there's quite a many moderates upset by it. The only people that love Mitt over this are the extreme right like Palin and you apparently. People that will come out in droves to vote for anything but Obama anyway. Romney is ahowing how inept and stupid and out of touch he is on an almost daily basis now. Some of the polls are starting to show this as well. The convention bump, ryan caught lying a LOT, romney continuously flip flopping on everything, this. It's all starting to catch up. The jobs report didn't give Romney even the slightest blip of a bump. That should tell you something. And just wait until Obama starts hammering him in the debates. You guys better hope for a major economy collapse, which is also disgusting.
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WildcatGG24 said...
Carl, you tried to use Romneys comments to stir up a huge debate about how he is scum. You IMO are using the situation as well.
But I will give it to you...you are dedicated and passionate...that's admirable. This debate has probably ran its course for me and you until someone else may chime in.
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CarlLexington said...
There is no debate. Romney is scum. I was venting anger about a disgusting human being politicizing on the death of Americans. Not looking for debate.
I don't recall Obama calling Romney a murderer. In fact I don't recall anyone calling Romney a murderer. I must have missed that one. It's pretty irrelevant to this situation.
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