The Paddock

Thats more like it.

I saw him on a show the other day. Behind the scenes kind of thing. He was shopping for an agent. He was in a meeting with one and told him he only wanted to go to a team that would let him be QB. Flashback to last years draft. I recall him being interviewed and in his totally fake "I'm a 12 year old good boy that does no wrong ever" voice and facial expressions he declared he didn't care where he played and that he would play any position the team needed him to play to help the team. The standard perfect answer. But video of his meeting with the agent shows he's a complete liar and fake. This is just one example. And my God JawJacker just go lube him up and propose already. I haven't seen one man slobber so much over another man since Brokeback Mountain.

I agree hoss. There is a lot of room for certain packages for Tebow to run and his leadership is second to none. He is an asset as a teammate to anyone. Now teams are beginning to see how to play him. In 2 straight games his team has had the lead and hasn't been able to maintain it. One thing most people overlook with a QB is their ability to keep a lead once ahead.

Its funnier to see a man jump over himself just to make up shit that he knows isn't true to push an agenda.

I said the opinion was dumbass not the poster and I thought we played by different rules on this particular board anyway. I wouldn't call an opinion dumbass on the other boards because it would be a thread killer. It just pains me to see people say that he's not an everyday QB when he's turned a team from 1-4 to a possible playoff team. And while he hasn't looked great doing it he's still won games. Lets also not forgot that he's basically still a rookie QB, not many of those guys look good every game. Still as sports fans we appreciate the guys that can come up with wins during the learning process. Cam Newton has started more games than Tebow has thus far. If you want to just focus on the negatives there are plenty, but you can't deny the fact that he wins and he does so because of intangibles and doing things other QB's can't and won't. Is he your traditional QB? Hell NO. Can he still get it done in this league with what he brings to the table? ABSOFREAKINLUTELY and he has this year. Seems like people want to turn a blind eye to that and to me that constitues Dumbass. People keep jumping on and off the bandwagon and while I'm a fan for a number of different reasons that don't even involve football I'm with Tebow. I just like what he brings to the table. Its different and frankly I'm sick of seeing these pure passers put up huge numbers because of the way rules are being enforced. You can't even tough these guys or their targets which makes these guys not even football players. And thats about all I got to say on that.

I didn't make up anything. Everything I said I saw.

Glad to see you changed your tune a little.

I never changed my tune. I have said from the start I dont believe he will be a full time QB in this league. That hasnt changed.

He won't acknowledge it when it does happen. He'll use the tired old excuse that he's being punished for being a Christian. Not because he's a gimmicky suck of a QB.

So your argument is that he won't have a good career. Man thats pretty broad. If your so sure of what he is why don't you go out on a little more of a limb. Do you think he'll start in the NFL at QB next year?

My opinion is... Christian or not (has nothing to do with it), I really think Tim Tebow will prove to be an exceptional QB in the NFL. The guy is a winner... pure and simple. IMHO

Yeah I believe he begins the season next year as the starter and will show a flash or two and by week 12 the broncos will be looking for a back up plan. tWhit you understand that I really truly dont give a damn about Tebow right? I dont care if he succeeds or fails. I just gave my opinion. The ONLY reason I even have an opinion is because Woodyard plays for Denver and they gave a shot to Braxton and Jeremy as well. I am no professional QB coach but when you complete 48% of your passes and your rushing average is almost the same as your passing yards per attempt its pretty telling. I believe Tebow had 8 TD's and 1 pick thru a certain part of the season. Now he has 12 and 6. That is a 4 to 5 ratio and more likely the telling argument. This isnt even counting the fact that he fumbles...a lot. In his last 3 games he has thrown 5(3 rushing) TD's 5 Int's fumbled 5 times losing 2 of those. He has been sacked 12 times losing 93 yards. He has rushed for 176 yards on 34 carries averaging roughly 5.2 yards a carry.

Sorry tWhit but those arent even mediocre stats.