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Was 9/11 a hoax?

  • I can't help I'm fascinated by this stuff.

    SeptemberClues.info | The Central Role of the News Media on 9/11

    On 9/11, the US TV networks used computer generated sceneries of Manhattan. Multiple techniques of image manipulation were employed to simulate 'airplanes crashing into the World Trade Center'. We now have conclusive evidence that the TV networks were proactively complicit in staging this false-flag operation needed to gather public consensus to wage immensely profitable, illegal wars. The forensic analysis of the live images leave no room for doubt : they do not depict authentic imagery nor real airplane crashes but turn out to be entirely doctored video sequences which effectively fooled the worldwide TV audience. Thus, the live broadcasts now stored in the major TV networks' archives, constitute the most solid, verifiable and repeatable proof to expose the falseness of the official version of the 9/11 tragedy.

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    tWhit

  • Please!?!

    michaelman1

  • michaelman1 said...

    Please!?!

    Thats the reaction of most. I'm still glad that some people out there question everything though. Lots of people out there don't believe it went down like we were told it went down. I find it fascinating to listen to their arguments. A lot of people don't trust a damn thing our government does. They may be a little out there but I'm kinda glad they're out there.

    tWhit

  • I was looking for the first Batman with Christian Bale once and came upon an hour long movie about a conspiracy and it definitely made me think about things. Can anyone say they trust the government 100%? I sure as hell dont. Do I find it hard to believe they would go this far though, yes. I cant see it really happening but that doesnt mean it didnt.

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    It smells like microwaved homeless people in here.

    Warmother51

  • So far what I've gathered is the people that believe in the Moon Hoax, 9/11 hoax believe in this New World Order or the Illuminati. They believe they control everything and are trying to deduce the population to a more controllable size which then brings in things like HAARP, Chemtrails, and other stuff. They believe this Elite group controls 80% of the wealth worldwide, they control banks, big corporations, and even Hollywood, lol and they are all descendants from a royal bloodline dating back to Ancient times. I don't even know why this interests me but it does. I'm just now starting to research it and I'm trying to keep an open mind. I'm sure most people won't give a damn but I though maybe some people would want to discuss some things about it. What got me started in this whole deal was the show Ancient Aliens. That led me to some other things which eventually led me to all this stuff about the Illuminati.

    tWhit

  • Warmother51 said...

    I was looking for the first Batman with Christian Bale once and came upon an hour long movie about a conspiracy and it definitely made me think about things. Can anyone say they trust the government 100%? I sure as hell dont. Do I find it hard to believe they would go this far though, yes. I cant see it really happening but that doesnt mean it didnt.

    Definitely don't trust the government so we agree there. What they are capable of I have no idea. Whats behind it all again I have no idea. I know some of these people have spent their lives researching these topics. I also know that a lot of strange things are happening and a lot of mysteries from Ancient History really boggle the mind. Could there be something that we've all been blind to for a long time. We think we're really living it up but we aren't. We waste waste waste while kids are starving in some parts of the world. Some things just don't add up.

    This post was edited by tWhit on 5/1/2012 at 3:28 PM

    tWhit

  • Most people who believe in the Illuminati probably don't know much about their history. I also find consipracies interesting. Doesn't mean I believe them.

    As for what War said about 9/11 I agree. The American people have been lied to so often that it would be ludicrous to not question what we're told. I'm not sold on the 9/11 stuff though.

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    Nate87

  • Most people who believe in the Illuminati probably don't know much about their history. I also find consipracies interesting. Doesn't mean I believe them.

    As for what War said about 9/11 I agree. The American people have been lied to so often that it would be ludicrous to not question what we're told. I'm not sold on the 9/11 stuff though.

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    Nate87

  • Nate87 said...

    Most people who believe in the Illuminati probably don't know much about their history.

    Not the case.

    tWhit

  • Hell, I WORK for the government, and I damn sure don't trust 'em!

    suncat05

  • I don't believe in these conspiracies about the moon landing or 911 being a hoax, but like Eric, I sure as hell don't believe everything our government tells us. Also, the conspiracy conjured up by the left about "W" blowing up the levee during Katrina... I don't believe that bs either.

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    JawJacker

  • tWhit said...

    Not the case.

    I didn't mean you or conspiracy theorists, but there are a lot of people who believe in them that don't know jack about their history. I have to explain who they were quite often when the subject comes up.

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    Nate87

  • No, it was not a hoax.

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    CarlLexington

  • Sure would be nice if we had more confidence in our government. It seems like the principles that this country were built on have been rendered almost useless and I'm not sure if we'll come out of what we're going through without some drastic changes. People are starting to wake up. Things are not good.

    tWhit

  • I don't believe that 9/11 was a hoax, or better yet, maybe in my heart I just don't want to believe that, I don't know. What I do know however is that I have seen some freaky, send chills down your spine type shit suggesting that it was just like that link. Its truly scary to think that it was tho.

    But I think that conspiracy theories towards "proof" or videos like this are a lot like lyrics from a nirvana song, everyone has their own interpretations.

    True or not, its freaky shit.

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    tommy

  • tommy said...

    I don't believe that 9/11 was a hoax, or better yet, maybe in my heart I just don't want to believe that, I don't know. What I do know however is that I have seen some freaky, send chills down your spine type shit suggesting that it was just like that link. Its truly scary to think that it was tho.

    But I think that conspiracy theories towards "proof" or videos like this are a lot like lyrics from a nirvana song, everyone has their own interpretations.

    True or not, its freaky shit.

    Its hard to get me to believe things as is but when I don't want to believe its even harder to get me to believe and I think most people are built this way. In no way do I want to believe that our government was somehow involved in 9/11 nor do I want to believe that they could have stopped it and didn't only to use it as an excuse to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know why I'm drawn to this sort of stuff but I think its possible that the conditions of the world we're living in right now make it possible for these interpretations to exist if that makes any sense.

    tWhit

  • I am not qualified to talk about such matters, but this kind of thing has to have its own psych category. Maybe its some sort of denial deal, but people do not want to believe that traumatic or dramatic things actually happened. We have people who are still looking for Elvis and thinking that JFK was shot by LBJ's men. It is a refusal to believe the explanation given because that explanation does not seem to match the magnitude of the event. 9/11 was so big it has to be more than a few guys with pocket knives on planes. To kill an American President has to take an army, not one man. This truther movement is nothing more than bored people who need to find something else to do. I am quite sure the WTCs are gone. I am quite sure that nearly 3000 people died. I am quite sure in a govt where stories about hookers and SS agents get leaked that a conspiracy the size of 9/11 would have been exposed long before now. To me this kind of stuff dishonors those who died.

    michaelman1

  • tWhit said...

    I can't help I'm fascinated by this stuff.

    I think your language is off.

    Hoax? 0% chance. It happened, it's real. The World Trade Center buildings used to be there, and now they're not.

    Part of a government conspiracy? Doubt it, but I'd put the chances a little higher than 0%.

    BigTyrone

  • JawJacker said...

    I don't believe in these conspiracies about the moon landing or 911 being a hoax, but like Eric, I sure as hell don't believe everything our government tells us. Also, the conspiracy conjured up by the left about "W" blowing up the levee during Katrina... I don't believe that bs either.

    I've never even heard of that, don't blame the "left" as a whole, it sounds like a bunch of extremists kooks like the 9/11 conspiracy people.

    BigTyrone

  • BigTyrone said...

    I've never even heard of that, don't blame the "left" as a whole, it sounds like a bunch of extremists kooks like the 9/11 conspiracy people.

    Granted... I stand corrected. It was extremists on the left (mostly talking head kooks) who were pushing that conspiracy. I didn't mean to imply that it was coming from the entire left.

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    JawJacker

  • BigTyrone said...

    I think your language is off.

    Hoax? 0% chance. It happened, it's real. The World Trade Center buildings used to be there, and now they're not.

    Part of a government conspiracy? Doubt it, but I'd put the chances a little higher than 0%.

    I don't make definitive statements until I've done the research. Until then I keep an open mind. I don't care what anybody says unless they've done the research and can make a sound argument one way or the other.

    By hoax I mean all that we've been told about the people who actually pulled this off being false. It could also mean that government knew about it and let it happen.

    This post was edited by tWhit on 5/2/2012 at 2:26 PM

    tWhit

  • I can make definitive statements because I've been to the site of the WTC both before and after the attacks. I have a cousin who watched the second plane hit. So I know that 9/11 wasn't a hoax.

    I think that "was 9/11 a hoax?" is not the question you're asking. You're talking more about details and who is responsible than if it actually happened or not - i.e. the lunar landing hoax.

    BigTyrone

  • Anyone who thinks Bush and the government planned 9/11 or let it happen, killing thousands and injuring more (and not counting the subsequent death and injuries to countless servicemen and women) is bored, looking for something else to blame on the government and flat out ignorant. The government certainly can't be fully trusted, but stop and think about the 9/11 accusation/theory for a minute. It is lunacy to even suggest it happened that way, all to justify going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    mjdotson

  • JawJacker said...

    Granted... I stand corrected. It was extremists on the left (mostly talking head kooks) who were pushing that conspiracy. I didn't mean to imply that it was coming from the entire left.

    It comes from the right too. Alex Jones and the Paul kooks believe the conspiracy. But anything to blame the left about right?

    This post was edited by cobbycobb on 5/3/2012 at 5:43 AM

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    CarlLexington

  • mjdotson said...

    Anyone who thinks Bush and the government planned 9/11 or let it happen, killing thousands and injuring more (and not counting the subsequent death and injuries to countless servicemen and women) is bored, looking for something else to blame on the government and flat out ignorant. The government certainly can't be fully trusted, but stop and think about the 9/11 accusation/theory for a minute. It is lunacy to even suggest it happened that way, all to justify going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Not to even mention like we'd need the justification to go to war? Just say WMD and go. The 9/11 conspiracy pisses me off a lot more than other stupid and unfounded conspiracies. It alleviates the terrorists guilt and places it on us ourselves. I wonder if these idiots realize this conspiracy started in France by American hating French people?

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    CarlLexington