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cobbycobb said...
SMH! Why would he release them when prices have already been falling since April? This makes no sense to me.
If this administration really wants to create new jobs and reduce the price of oil you can do both in one clean sweep. It's simple too... Open up more domestic drilling. Drill Baby Drill!
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Deeeefense said...
Well you're half right. The strategic reserve is meant for emergencies for instance if someone set off a suitcase nuke in the Saudi oil fields we would have a devastating global supply problem. That's the kind of thing this is suppose to be used for. Unfortunately presidents past and present, have as you say used the strategic reserve to lower gas prices for political purposes. Congress should pass a law forbidding this IMO.
OTOH, Obama has been positive about new exploration. Recall that before the BP catastrophe Obama had opened up more areas for off shore production and took a lot of heat from the left on that. Domestic production is really not the answer to lower prices. The incremental increase in domestic oil from more drilling, is not going to have a feather's weight of effect on global crude prices and even at that it would take a couple of years minimum for new sources to even come on line. BTW we are producing more domestic oil now then before the Deep Water Horizon blew up.
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Deeeefense said...
Not sure if anyone on here is guilty of this, but conservatives have been accusing the president recently of trying to purposely raise gas prices. Obviously if he is advocating releases from the strategic reserve to increase supply to lower prices the former cannot be true.
The critics will have to pick a side in this, he can't be trying to raise and lower prices at the same time.
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ukaveman said...
Dee, this is kind of a circular argument. We are producing more because of policies and initiatives before Obama even took office (assuming that it takes about 5 years to make a field productive). Secondly, we can easily double US output in 5-6 years by tapping ANWR, the Artic find and through fracking. Granted, it won't make us "independent" but it will allow us to stop buying from unsavory characters.
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Deeeefense said...
Kav - I'm all for developing every source of energy we have available including ANWR as long as it can be done safely without creating yet another mess for our kids to clean up later. However ANWR would only supply about 6 months worth of our total crude consumption. So it is at best just one piece of a short term fix:
"The total production from ANWR would be between 0.4 and 1.2 percent of total world oil consumption in 2030. Consequently, ANWR oil production is not projected to have a large impact on world oil prices.[24] Furthermore, the Energy Information Administration does not feel ANWR will affect the global price of oil when past behaviors of the oil market are considered. "The opening of ANWR is projected to have its largest oil price reduction impacts as follows: a reduction in low-sulfur, light crude oil prices of $0.41 per barrel (2006 dollars) in 2026 for the low oil resource case, $0.75 per barrel in 2025 for the mean oil resource case, and $1.44 per barrel in 2027 for the high oil resource case, relative to the reference case."[24] "Assuming that world oil markets continue to work as they do today, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) could neutralize any potential price impact of ANWR oil production by reducing its oil exports by an equal amount."
WE have to start thinking longer term - 20-50 years. Fossil fuels are a finite resource and their supplies are growing smaller every day. The smaller the supply the higher the price.
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ukaveman said...
Bottom line is there is A LOT of fossil fuel potential in the US that we should be able to access. The Canadians and Norwegians have no problems whatsoever tapping into their natural resources that are in environmentally sensitive areas and do so in an environmentally friendly way. Why can't we?? Hitting the strategic oil reserve is bad policy and does nothing accept provide a very short respite in prices. Instead of gimmicks, we need a real and comprehensive policy!!
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Deeeefense said...
Well you're half right. The strategic reserve is meant for emergencies for instance if someone set off a suitcase nuke in the Saudi oil fields we would have a devastating global supply problem. That's the kind of thing this is suppose to be used for. Unfortunately presidents past and present, have as you say used the strategic reserve to lower gas prices for political purposes. Congress should pass a law forbidding this IMO.
OTOH, Obama has been positive about new exploration. Recall that before the BP catastrophe Obama had opened up more areas for off shore production and took a lot of heat from the left on that. Domestic production is really not the answer to lower prices. The incremental increase in domestic oil from more drilling, is not going to have a feather's weight of effect on global crude prices and even at that it would take a couple of years minimum for new sources to even come on line. BTW we are producing more domestic oil now then before the Deep Water Horizon blew up.
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That's friggin' hilarious!








why did Obama release oil reserves when prices already falling?